Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 2 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #69269
View in linear mode

Subject: "Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..." Previous topic | Next topic
jdeyoFeb-24-04 06:45 PM
Old School 2GNTer
197 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69269, "Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."


          

I just wanted to share a solution to a problem that many people may have had with the MP TB. After I installed mine a few months back, I had high idle problems and a vacuum leak. I lived with it thinking that the throttle plate was not closing all the way. I finally found the source of my problem.

I took the TB off and noticed a notch scored into the gasket. This notch was caused by:


It is a casting flare that was left when the manifold was made. It does not get in the way of the stock TB, but does leave a 1mm gap in the lower corner of the MP TB when it is tighened down. That gap feeds air directly into the IAC motor passage. It also lets air leak in after the throttle plate.

I fixed it by carefully grinding down the manifold with my dremel until it was no longer a problem. Make sure you cover up your engine bay before you go grinding in there, and stick a rag into the manifold.



You can see how little was needed to be filed down. This fixed my problem.

-Jared

Iceman CAI | RS*R Cat-Back | AFX Pully | Milled Head 10:1 CR | MP 60mm TB

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., Uberingram, Feb-24-04 06:53 PM, #1
RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., djtrickee, Feb-24-04 07:03 PM, #2
RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., Initial DSM, Feb-24-04 07:06 PM, #3
      RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., Clay, Feb-24-04 09:31 PM, #4
           RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., AdministratorCODE4, Feb-25-04 02:29 AM, #5
                RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., TeamMichael_97RS, Feb-25-04 04:03 AM, #6
                     RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..., Initial DSM, Feb-25-04 08:29 AM, #7

UberingramFeb-24-04 06:53 PM
Donating 2GNT member
10001 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69270, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 0


          

Good pics and good find. Should go in "Things we've seen before" if no one else has anything to add, imo. emoji

__________________________________________
~Chris
03 SRT-4

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

djtrickeeFeb-24-04 07:03 PM
Donating 2GNT member
5924 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69274, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 0




          

Originally posted by jdeyo
I just wanted to share a solution to a problem that many people may have had with the MP TB. After I installed mine a few months back, I had high idle problems and a vacuum leak. I lived with it thinking that the throttle plate was not closing all the way. I finally found the source of my problem. I took the TB off and noticed a notch scored into the gasket. This notch was caused by: It is a casting flare that was left when the manifold was made. It does not get in the way of the stock TB, but does leave a 1mm gap in the lower corner of the MP TB when it is tighened down. That gap feeds air directly into the IAC motor passage. It also lets air leak in after the throttle plate. I fixed it by carefully grinding down the manifold with my dremel until it was no longer a problem. Make sure you cover up your engine bay before you go grinding in there, and stick a rag into the manifold. You can see how little was needed to be filed down. This fixed my problem. -Jared


This was true on mine as well. Luckily I had an extra mani that I ported/ polished and installed Corbin's spacer into. I had to grind down that spot also. You could actually see the gap it was causing when the MP TB was on.

.........................................................................................................................

Built. That's All...
.........................................................................................................................
www.monkeybuttpirate.com
.........................................................................................................................
2 Fingers of Scotch with a milk back... Stat!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Initial DSMFeb-24-04 07:06 PM
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
2833 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69276, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 2




          

Can you specify your examples of high idle problems? cause i was always uncertain about if i had a leak or not.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
ClayFeb-24-04 09:31 PM
Old School 2GNTer
1790 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69285, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 3


          

If it idles above 900-1000k its not idling right. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.


95 GST | So-Cal

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
AdministratorCODE4Feb-25-04 02:29 AM
Member since Nov 23rd 2003
2552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69291, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 4




          

you are correct.

---

2012 2500HD LML


  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
TeamMichael_97RSFeb-25-04 04:03 AM
Donating 2GNT member
5866 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69302, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 5


          

I've forced mine to idle higher than that on purpose, but that's another story. I'll move this to things seen before in a couple days.



Exile Racing Technologies: http://www.exileracing.com
una salus victus
It's holding down the garage floor right now.

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Initial DSMFeb-25-04 08:29 AM
Member since Sep 23rd 2003
2833 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69321, "RE: Modern Performance TB info.... Common Problem..."
In response to Reply # 6




          

I guess i installed mine with no problems then. emoji

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #69269 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.069 seconds, executing 28 queries.