Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 1 User in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #69173
View in linear mode

Subject: "Need a valve spring compressor... where?" Previous topic | Next topic
Teamdougie2Feb-24-04 08:07 AM
Old School 2GNTer
2982 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69173, "Need a valve spring compressor... where?"




          

I need to remove some valves. Where can I rent or buy cheap a valve spring compressor for OHC engines (420a)?

Also... it's a bad idea to swap camshaft caps between heads, right? I'm under the impression that it's a no-no, but if's okay I'll save a ton of time.



Doug

Xtreme Performance Services

Race Engines 路 Transmissions 路 Turbo Systems 路 EFI & Tuning 路 Fabrication 路 Welding
www.xtremefabrications.com

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, turbo8u, Feb-24-04 08:17 AM, #1
RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, ModeratorCorbin, Feb-25-04 05:22 AM, #2
RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, mkerley, Feb-25-04 02:00 PM, #3
RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, soulcontroller, Feb-25-04 05:06 PM, #4
      RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, WickedESi, Feb-25-04 07:06 PM, #5
           RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, Skrilla, Feb-26-04 08:20 AM, #6
                RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, TeamXtremeRS, Feb-26-04 11:20 AM, #7
                     RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, Teamdougie2, Feb-26-04 01:33 PM, #8
                          RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?, turbo8u, Feb-26-04 01:44 PM, #9

turbo8uFeb-24-04 08:17 AM
Member since Jun 15th 2003
10552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69174, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 0
Feb-24-04 08:18 AM by turbo8u



          

get a fat socket, stick it over the valve spring head and give it a wack with a hammer or rubber mallet, it'll free the locks and you can remove the valve, installing it is another thing. use your thumbs and have someone else put in the locks. as to the caps, i'd be willing to bet you'll be ok...just make sure the markings on the caps are on the right spot

our valve springs and top washers sit very close to the head and so a valve spring compressor is a major PITA to get in there, fyi
_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca

brenda29> so anyways,... my dad thought that kids would call me brenda

as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

ModeratorCorbinFeb-25-04 05:22 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69307, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 0


          

As a general rule, I would never swap cam caps between heads. But, if you accurately measured everything and it cam out perfect, then it should be ok. I wouldn't do it though.

Corbin

'95 ESI-T
HRC+FMIC+ETC...



Gimme fuel...Gimme fire...Gimme that which I desire

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

mkerleyFeb-25-04 02:00 PM
Old School 2GNTer
944 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69345, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 0




          

Can't you rent the compressor from Autozone? I think they have one, but I'm not positive


99GS MT | Star Stage 2 | GC coilovers | HurriganeGS tie bars | Tokico Illuminas | 17x7 Enkei RS5 | Baer track brakes |+

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
soulcontrollerFeb-25-04 05:06 PM
Donating 2GNT member
2490 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69371, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 3
Feb-25-04 05:07 PM by soulcontroller

          

you cant swap cam caps. dont do it. i learned the hard way. those cylinders need to be perfectly round, and youll be really pissed off if you put everything together, try to turn the cams and they dont budge.

but for your question, im really not sure. people have had a hard time finding them for our applications though.

*what did you do to warrant valve replacement btw doug? leaky seals?

______________________________
Matt D.
'06 Evo IX SE
'98 RS-T 13.8 @ 106.1

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
WickedESiFeb-25-04 07:06 PM
Donating 2GNT member
3090 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69386, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 4
Feb-25-04 07:10 PM by WickedESi



          

I say test the caps w/ some Plastigauge, availible almost everywhere, which makes it easily visable if it's round or not if you just put a long peice on, if there're in spec (check Chilton's manual for clearances) torque the camshaft caps on, w/ the timing belt off turn the crank to 45* before/after TDC and you should be able to turn the camshafts w/ your hand. If everything turns out like it should, absolutely nothing to worry about.

How to use Plastigauge: http://www.fordmuscle.com/fundamentals/plastiguage/index.shtml


Joel Baldridge, ASE Certified Master Technician, Audi Certified Expert Technician

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
SkrillaFeb-26-04 08:20 AM
Donating 2GNT member
1868 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69427, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 5


          

Originally posted by WickedESi
I say test the caps w/ some Plastigauge, availible almost everywhere, which makes it easily visable if it's round or not if you just put a long peice on, if there're in spec (check Chilton's manual for clearances) torque the camshaft caps on, w/ the timing belt off turn the crank to 45* before/after TDC and you should be able to turn the camshafts w/ your hand. If everything turns out like it should, absolutely nothing to worry about. How to use Plastigauge: http://www.fordmuscle.com/fundamentals/plastiguage/index.shtml


That is a good site

*Skrilla
"Honest officer, I thought you were trying to race me"
Talon: 1st 2.4L
'97 Prelude
'04 350Z

Originally posted by YourInMyMirror95GS
dick teaser's should be rounded up and shot in the forehead
Originally posted by etx
Good luck man! Project 'STFU Brian your talon is dead meat' should be on it's feet soon! emoji
Originally posted by Dark0ne
Thanks. Now excuse me while i fuck your sister.
"fuck all motor" -turbo ate you

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
TeamXtremeRSFeb-26-04 11:20 AM
Member since May 20th 2003
6329 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69437, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 6


          

Yeah, dont swap cam caps..if you do, then they will need to be align bored, which many places don't do. You'd be surprised at how little those cap bores have to be off to wreck havoc...


13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)

My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
Teamdougie2Feb-26-04 01:33 PM
Old School 2GNTer
2982 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69448, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 7




          

>>As a general rule, I would never swap cam caps between heads.

That's my impression as well. I was wondering it anyone had tried it since nobody seems to have an OHC/OHV spring compressor I can rent. Shot in the dark I guess. Bad idea I know.

>>Can't you rent the compressor from Autozone?

It's too big. I'm going to talk to the guys at Dodge. They know me very well and would probably let me borrow it over the weekend.

>>what did you do to warrant valve replacement btw doug? leaky seals?

It's not my head, it's Michael's (xEclipseRaceRx) head. His idler pulley bracket snaped in half and 6 valves smacked the pistons. The only thing getting replaced on my car is the T3 replaced with a Super 20G, custom manifold replaced with Armond's ceramic HRC manifold, and the 2.5" downpipe is getting replaced with Armond's 3" HRC Eliminator downpipe. THEN maybe the valve seals will need replaced... maybe. emoji

>>How to use Plastigauge...(etc)

Good site but I know about clearences and have shit loads of plastigage. The clearences match stock specs but I still think that wear would be abnormal and the valve-train would fail again.

>>dont swap cam caps..if you do, then they will need to be align bored

I hate machine shops and don't trust anyone else's work. However, I've had an align bore done at a local shop and it was a good bore job. I just wish I could find a spring compressor, it would be quicker and cheaper. (sigh) Help!



Doug

Xtreme Performance Services

Race Engines 路 Transmissions 路 Turbo Systems 路 EFI & Tuning 路 Fabrication 路 Welding
www.xtremefabrications.com

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
turbo8uFeb-26-04 01:44 PM
Member since Jun 15th 2003
10552 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#69450, "RE: Need a valve spring compressor... where?"
In response to Reply # 8




          

shit well i swapped cam caps and didnt use plastigauge, i can turn the cams fine though

off to check clearances....
_________
96 talon esi-t
san clemente, ca


as needles of ice
are the ill winds' talons
the coldest of shadows
they seep unto the bone

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #69173 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.071 seconds, executing 32 queries.