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Teamdougie2Dec-20-03 10:04 PM
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#65058, "ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
Dec-20-03 10:06 PM by dougie2



          

I just completed the ATX to MTX swap at 3:30am. Overall a smooth install and my first impression is positive. I installed a SPEC Stage 3 modular clutch.

Everything works great except my turbo downpipe keeps hitting the oil pan. I think re-orientation of the engine during the tranny install caused the pipe to be moved one inch closer to about 1/8" from the pan. That's way to close... causing it to hit the pan ("knock knock knock") whenever accelerating, braking, and shifting. I'll going to solve this problem by re-installing my solid front motor mount, bending the downpipe, and fabricating a brace to secure the downpipe.

The clutch feels great! It grabs quick and the pedal is light. I wouldn't want it any other way. The car wants to GO GO GO! The SPEC Stage 3 clutch has a considerable amount of chatter in first and reverse. This should smoothen out after 1000 miles or so. I can't wait to see what she's got!

I have pictures of the install if anyone cares. Also I can do a visual writeup if it'll help anyone. I think this is my 2nd best my to date! It's not even the same car! emoji



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RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Diceman19, Dec-21-03 02:21 AM, #1
RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), DSMkarz, Dec-22-03 03:30 PM, #2
      RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), soulcontroller, Dec-22-03 06:28 PM, #3
           RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), onetrav, Dec-23-03 11:24 AM, #4
                RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), babybeclipse, Jan-01-04 05:36 PM, #5
                     RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Diceman19, Jan-01-04 05:47 PM, #6
                          RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), 98starGS, Jan-01-04 06:05 PM, #7
                          RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), babybeclipse, Jan-01-04 06:06 PM, #8
                               RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Teamdougie2, Jan-02-04 03:18 AM, #9
                                    RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), onetrav, Jan-02-04 04:18 AM, #10
                                    RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), 95redesi, Jan-02-04 06:35 AM, #11
                                         RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), babybeclipse, Jan-02-04 07:10 AM, #12
                                              RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Teamdougie2, Jan-02-04 07:22 AM, #13
                                                   RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), 95redesi, Jan-02-04 07:59 AM, #14
                                                        RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Teamdougie2, Jan-02-04 09:02 AM, #15
                                                             RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), 95redesi, Jan-02-04 09:45 AM, #16
                                                                  RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), babybeclipse, Jan-02-04 10:14 AM, #17
                                    RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), UpToSpeed, Feb-03-05 11:46 AM, #18
                                         RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Teamdougie2, Feb-03-05 04:34 PM, #19
                                              RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Moderatorxcasbonx, Feb-04-05 01:12 AM, #20
                                              RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), grain, Feb-05-05 04:59 AM, #21
                                                   RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), Teamdougie2, Feb-05-05 04:58 PM, #22
                                              RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!), UpToSpeed, Feb-16-05 06:45 AM, #23

Diceman19Dec-21-03 02:21 AM
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#65059, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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way to go

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DSMkarzDec-22-03 03:30 PM
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#65153, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Cool man glad to hear of only small problems. Good luck finishing up the small stuff. Post up once brake in is up and tell us how fast your pants filled from 0 to 60 LOL emoji

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soulcontrollerDec-22-03 06:28 PM
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#65160, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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nice work dougie. im going to hit you up when i do my swap install when i have questions emoji hopefully the a/t wont blow up too soon though hehe.

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onetravDec-23-03 11:24 AM
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#65201, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Dec-23-03 11:26 AM by onetrav

          

AHH yes, yet another has gone to the dark side! MUAAAAAHHHHHHH!!! I just did the swap as well and its BY FAR, the best mod I could have done for $1000. HUGE performance gains. If anyone has any questions feel free to hit me up as well. I did the whole thing in about 20 hrs. Great job BTW, its not an easy job by far. Your car is gonna haul balls. I got 350 miles on my mine now and I got on er a few times and its awsome. Your turbo is gonna spool quick emoji


-Travis

  

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babybeclipseJan-01-04 05:36 PM
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#65604, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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I need to speak with both of you gentlemen. My transmission is making cringing noises and I'm in need of a swap.

Has ANYONE attempted to make a write-up on this?

If no one does, I WILL MAKE ONE!

Guys contact me so we can get the ball rolling on my swap and write-up.

oh, can someone hook me up with a link to specs on SPEC clutches? I plan on making some serious power with my motor (350+hp emoji ) I need to know what the best/cheapest clutch would be.

Thanks, looking forward to talkin to you guys REAL SOON.

oh, to the auto guys. DON'T BOTHER BUILDING AUTO'S. No offense but I built a bullet proof trans and in less than a year she's giving up on m emoji

  

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Diceman19Jan-01-04 05:47 PM
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#65606, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Originally posted by babybeclipse
I need to speak with both of you gentlemen. My transmission is making cringing noises and I'm in need of a swap. Has ANYONE attempted to make a write-up on this? If no one does, I WILL MAKE ONE! Guys contact me so we can get the ball rolling on my swap and write-up. oh, can someone hook me up with a link to specs on SPEC clutches? I plan on making some serious power with my motor (350+hp emoji ) I need to know what the best/cheapest clutch would be. Thanks, looking forward to talkin to you guys REAL SOON. oh, to the auto guys. DON'T BOTHER BUILDING AUTO'S. No offense but I built a bullet proof trans and in less than a year she's giving up on m emoji


maybe she is just tired??? emoji

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98starGSJan-01-04 06:05 PM
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#65607, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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i just want to give props to you guys, that would be the last thing i would want to do to my car is a manuel swap. its just impressive that there have been a bunch of guys to do it and says its easy on top of things. so congrats guys and enjoy!!!

  

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babybeclipseJan-01-04 06:06 PM
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#65608, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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lol

I wear her out too fast:P

  

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Teamdougie2Jan-02-04 03:18 AM
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#65632, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Hey- I am working on a fully detailed visual writeup... it'll be ready to post soon.



Doug

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onetravJan-02-04 04:18 AM
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#65633, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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I took some pics when I did mine but I dont know how helpfull they are. I didnt really know what I should take pictures of and once I got going I just wanted to get it done and I forgot to take more pics emoji


-Travis

  

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95redesiJan-02-04 06:35 AM
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#65640, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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atx is auto trans , right and mtx is manual . And why do you put the x on the end. ? Because you swapped it? Sorry for being so ignorant .

  

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babybeclipseJan-02-04 07:10 AM
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#65642, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Automatic transaxle <--see the x?

It's a neon thing that we kinda borrowe emoji

cool Dougie2, Hopefully you'll have that up in time for my swa emoji lol

I'm thinking the biggest pain will be finding the parts and the wiring and the most expensive parts will be the trans and the clutch.

  

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Teamdougie2Jan-02-04 07:22 AM
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#65643, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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>>Hopefully you'll have that up in time for my swa emoji lol

Almost done

>>I'm thinking the biggest pain will be finding the parts and the
>>wiring and the most expensive parts will be the trans and the
>>clutch.

That's right.



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95redesiJan-02-04 07:59 AM
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#65646, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Is that a Hahn Stage 3 Turbo.? How much did it run you . ?

  

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Teamdougie2Jan-02-04 09:02 AM
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#65659, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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No it's not a Hahn kit. It's my own custom setup. I guess it's not really a stage thing... I'm guessing about 300wHP.



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#65662, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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what is all in your setup? What turbo, bov, intercooler, and so on....

  

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babybeclipseJan-02-04 10:14 AM
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#65663, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Originally posted by 95redesi
what is all in your setup? What turbo, bov, intercooler, and so on....


You really should send him a PM or Email. This thread is about swapping a manual transmission in place of an automatic. I don't mean to be a pain or anything just reminding you of other options instead of stealing threads.

  

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#85552, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Please let me know if you get this write up done. If you've got all the pictures I'll even format the whole damn thing in HTML and make it look good plus host the thing on my site... the info will be up forever, I run my own server so it's not going anywhere. It's hosted at EV1 so I've got plenty of bandwidth.

Hit me up at mostlyalive@yahoo.com (Don't want to post my main email address to avoid all the damn email spiders) and I'll get everything setup for you when you're ready.

Thanks and congrats on the install!

  

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Teamdougie2Feb-03-05 04:34 PM
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#85567, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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I never finished the write-up. sorry.



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#85568, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Feb-04-05 01:13 AM by xcasbonx



          

Its like a difference between night and day isn't it Doug?

I just bought a 5spd tranny recently, waiting for it to come in the mail, then I'll be doing the swap as well.

A WRITEUP WOULD BE KICKASS, otherwise I'm going to be asking a lot of questions.


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#85600, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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your prolly gonna be swapping out that clutch soon. give it a few k miles.

  

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Teamdougie2Feb-05-05 04:58 PM
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#85624, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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If you're talking to me, then yeah, the Spec stage 3 didn't last long. This is an old thread actually. I'm using a Clutch Masters stage 4 now. You can really stick it to this clutch... I put down over 400 HP with it.



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#86089, "RE: ATX to MTX swap (it's alive!)"
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Any chance you could send me the pictures and what you have done on the write up? I can post up what you have and try to fill in the rest. People have been saying for years they would do a write up and I really just want one for everyone who is considering doing the swap! Plus I would like a little forsight before I do it myself next month emoji

Hope you can help!

  

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