ok im having a hard time tracking down my problum symtoms
1. when i start the car it revs up then dies
2. when i stop at a stop light revs drop and car eather cuts off or almost cuts off
3. dont have this problum if the ac is ON
4. car runs like normal at speed no hesitation on or off throdel rpms in normal area for speed



1.things ive done so far new plugs & wires
2.cleaned k&n and TB inlet
3.ajusted idle now after the surge it idles at 1500 rpm
4. looked for vacume leeks none that i could see all vacume hoses look fine

ok guy help any ideas where to go next

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Will
Cary, NC

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If your bumper still has all its paint your not low enough

could be the map sensor. i know when mine was disconnected the car didn't want to idle or idled bad. but when i did give it gas, it was fine. might want to clean and check it and check the wires going from it. sometimes they get brittle and don't send a signal anymore. that happened to my speed sensor output. talk about scared!!!
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DarkOne> but we all have that inner ricer that is just dying to come out sometimes...

Yeah, map sensor for sure. I had the same problem. See if you can find a wireing diagram and test all 3 connections from the plug on the map to the ecu and if they are good your sensor may have went out. MAP sensors are not cheap!

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I had the exact same problem about a month ago. I think it's the EGR valve. Acceleration was fine, but at idle it dies, or at least tries. No CEL. When you crank it, put you hand over the tailpipe. It will pulse like one cylinder is bad.

I had a mechanic clean mine for about $80. He tried to find a new one around town but there wasn't one available. That's why he cleaned it and stuck it back on the car. Runs fine now. Try that.

ok thanks for the help guys that at least gives me a few places to look at my next thought was going to be to change the fuel pump and filter

If your bumper still has all its paint your not low enough