i looked at howell, crowder and crane, and i still can't find 264/272 cams. am i looking at the right numbers. and do you know of a good web site that has some info on them or others? thanks

www.gude.com kinda hard to find in the site, but on the top right I THINK there will be something where u can pull up eclipse stuff

Michael
96 GS--pain in the ass

gude only has 4g63 cams listed.



From www.crower.com

Mitsubishi 420A Eclipse (non turbo)
New cam cores are now available for the front exhaust Mitsubishi 420A engine platform. These are not regrinds of stock cores, but high performance cam cores that allow for unlimited specifications, while maintaining factory 1.180" base circle. Choose from three dyno proven grinds. Custom, proprietary grinds are also available for an additional charge.


Part # Description Advertised Duration Duration @ .050" Gross Lift w/1.75

Stock Factory O.E.M. specs (Eclipse non-Turbo 420A) 219 / 221 166 / 172 .273 / .323

64461 Stage 1 - works with stock valve springs. Daily driver. Idle to 6700 rpm 230 / 231 176 / 182 .293 / .340

64462 Stage 2 - Agressive street use or nitrous. Idle 1000 to 7000+ 240 / 240 192 / 192 .310 / .355

64463 Stage 3 - Full Race. Recommended for Drag Race use only. Kit #84176 and ECU required. Idle 1500 - 7500+ rpm. 254 / 254 210 / 210 .350 / .370

00069 Custom ground, proprietary cams available, contact Crower for specs.


From www.cranecams.com

Crane Cams offers FIVE camshafts for your Mitsubishi! See how our cams can improve your performance! Don't forget our Valve Train Components to compliment our cams.

Stock Cam

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
243 / 243 192/196 109 344/315

Stage 1 #10 "street grind"
Grind Number Part Number
MIT-242-8 431-0010

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
242 / 242 200/200 108 354/354


Stage 2 #12 "nitrous grind"
Grind Number Part Number
MIT-246-10 431-0012

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
246 / 246 204/204 110 364/364

Stage 3 #14 "split duration turbo grind"
Grind Number Part Number
MIT-246-2SR-8 431-0014

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
246/238 204/196 108 364/345

Stage 4 #16 "drag grind"
Grind Number Part Number
MIT-250-8 431-0016

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
250 / 250 208/208 108 374/374

Stage 5 #18 (high compression drag grind)

Grind Number Part Number
MIT-258-10 431-0018

Advertised Duration
Int/Exh Duration @ .050
Int/Exh Lobe Separation Gross Lift
258 / 258 216/216 110 394/394

NOTE: More radical custom grinds available! Call our Tech Line for more information.










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which one would be best for daily driving with good power gains. what numbers

What's your plan's with the car?


Turbo, Nitrous, both? All Motor high compression, turboed high compression, turbo low compression, nitrous high compression, stock compression? What mods do you already have?



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those Crane #14's are for the front exaust 420A right? Or is it for the neon heads..

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
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-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

First off the specs listed on Crowers site are wrong. The actual grinds are more aggressive then what is listed. They listed the specs before they produced the cams, and haven't changed the site yet.

Second both Crower and Crane can produce you custom spec cams.

Third stay away from Gude like the plague

For what grind to get, how is the ar going to be used? Mostly street with some drag runs,m mostly track running. all makes a difference, the more radical the grnd the harder the driveability.



15.9 @ 86.7mph

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Cams, Hooker Header, ERT/Catco Cat, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC

I just want more power without spending a lot. My dad is a mechanic so I get free engine work. I'm not going to get a turbo or Nitrous anything like that. I just want more power without having a harsh idle or a problem with emissions. I have a UDP and that's about it. I'm not going to do anything to the engine until I can get exhaust intake and port and polish.

Does anyone have the actual specs for the Crower cams then?

I assume that the Crane cam grinds are what are posted. I am looking for a more radical grind that will give me good midrange power and not give up on the topend. I have a turbo of course and will have a basic stage 2 head with 1mm oversize valves. The rest of the head will be built as well.

Michael? anyone...


I also need a flow sheet on my head to find out what would be the best choice. I have not had mine flow tested as of yet. Anyone have some info to share with me to make an educated choice. If not, I will just have to wait till my head is finished before ordering some cams. I am not actually looking for custom grinds. Too much room for error and I would just rather live without the small gain I might get on the big end by going radical.

Who else is using aftermarket cams with their turbo setup?

97 RS(PTE SC-61, Built Long Block, Electromotive Tec 3)It's Here!

I have the actual Crower Stage 2 Cam specs listed in the Advanced Tuning section. I'll see if I can get a hold of Brian crower again and see if he can get me the real specs for the rest of the grids.



15.9 @ 86.7mph

Injen CAI, 55mm TB, P&P Intake, Crower Cams, Hooker Header, ERT/Catco Cat, GS-T Muffler, AFX UDP, Crane Ign Amp, S-AFC

Yeah i was looking at the Stage 3 #14 "split duration turbo grind" ones. I have a HRC stage 2, im taking a block to VT to be rebuilt and im going to do the headwork then drop this other motor in. I plan on running high comp pistons (actually probably 10.5:1 but thats higher than stock) and about 12 psi of boost. On the head Ill install some SS Valves and PT rockers / lifters, and the Crane cams. So do you guys think those Stage 3 #14 cams will be good? Sorry, dont mean to hijack your post, but this is along the same lines. But your all motor..

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