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Mr MikeMar-09-03 04:51 PM
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#46319, "Which clutch for good holding power+long life"


          

I'm going to be changing my transmision this summer, and even though my clutch is still good I might change it to a stronger one for when I eventually go turbo. I drive over 100 miles a day so I can't deal with the short life of a high stage clutch. How long would a stage two clutch usually last and how much stronger is than stock? I don't see myself ever going higher than ~200-220 hp. Would the stock clutch still be able to hold at that level?

  

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RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, Mystic511, Mar-10-03 08:26 AM, #1
RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-10-03 05:08 PM, #2
      RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, Mr Mike, Mar-10-03 05:22 PM, #3
           RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, Fast420A, Mar-10-03 05:32 PM, #4
                RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, 96venger, Mar-11-03 04:32 PM, #5
                     RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, JustOne, Mar-11-03 05:26 PM, #6
                          RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, PowerEclipses, Mar-12-03 02:29 AM, #7
                               RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, JustOne, Mar-12-03 04:43 AM, #8
                                    RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Mar-12-03 05:39 AM, #9
                                         RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, vegasdsmr, Mar-12-03 05:06 PM, #10
                                              RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, 420aVenger, Mar-12-03 08:09 PM, #11
                                                   RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life, CVedEclipse, Mar-13-03 03:33 AM, #12

Mystic511Mar-10-03 08:26 AM
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#46353, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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Talk to motofool. He has custom 2.5 clutch that sounds like it could handle everything thrown at it and still be a decent daily drive clutch. It even a 6 month warranty, so no worries.


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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneMar-10-03 05:08 PM
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#46386, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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What makes you think the high stage clutches don't last? Mine's been fine since day one, and still takes all the abuse i can throw at it.

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Mr MikeMar-10-03 05:22 PM
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#46390, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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I heard that stage three and four clutches had an average life span of around 20,000 miles due to the disk material. How many miles do you have on yours Dino? I drive alot and spend alot of time in stop and go traffic, and I heard slipping high stage clutches really takes tole on them.

  

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#46392, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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Clutchmasters is the way to go, period.

I put 30,000 miles on a Clutchmaster Stage 3 and it held just the same the day I removed it to sell it as it did when I first got on it.

Sean, 420aturbo, has it now so once he gets the motor back together we can see how long it'll last.


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#46462, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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Mar-11-03 04:34 PM by 96venger

          

I don't know. I have had the stage 4 for 15K miles and I toasted it Friday night at the drag strip. Now I can't go over 5 psi without it slipping really bad. Too short for the 800 bucks I spent on it emoji

I also was driving my car around town back and forth to work everyday and over 300 HP so I guess it "ok" for the abuse I put on it.

The night it went I had drag radials on too.

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JustOneMar-11-03 05:26 PM
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#46469, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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Stage 3 can't hold over 300hp, according to CM and according to me

I know this because it slipped like a little fucking bitch last night. I also had one of my stage 4's go at about 13k and another go at 10k. I don't think I am a very good example though because I like to abuse it, especially w/ the Quaife and 20+psi

I went to the non-modular clutch so I only need to replace the disk @ ~250 a disk vs. 600.00 for the new modular.

The Stage 4 only has 4 pucks and they really aren’t all that big so they really don’t have a long life vs. stocks ~60-100K+ miles.

The life of the clutch is all going to depend on how you drive your car and what kind of power you are putting on it. A stage 4 clutch on a basic bolt on low boost car will last a lot longer than a higher HP car.

My new unfortunate opinion is that for a stage 4 car you need stage 4 clutch and no lower. I can’t even spin the tires in second and third w/ the stage 3 clutch just sky high rpms and no speed.

  

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#46510, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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just one, so reading on what you say, you would go with stage 4?, I went with stage 3, and I will be wanting to push 15 psi daily, and maybe 18 at tracks and everything, think I will be fine with that?


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JustOneMar-12-03 04:43 AM
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#46518, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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I can only speak for my self and what conclusions I have made. I feel that if you are producing higher HP numbers 300+ you need the stage 4. It will hold all my power and NEVER slip under that power until it dies. When my last stage 4 went it was still holding 4k drops but would slip during normal driving?

I tried the stage down (on the car right now) and it slips at ~13 psi in second and third. I also had it slip at 20psi in fourth. This is a new clutch and fully broken in.

So it's either the material or the clamp load that isn't up to holding the hp.

My recommendation is above 15 psi w/ every bolt-on known to man get a stage 4. They dont have a long life (on my car) but they hold all till the very end.

Brian

  

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#46527, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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Mar-12-03 05:40 AM by DarkOne



          

Mine has lasted ~15,000 so far, and has shown no signs of dying anytime soon..

If any clutch dies that low, you might want 6to check the front seal on your trans - if it leaks fluid, it ends up in your clutch. Lubricated clutches don't grab so well emoji

I drive in stop-and-go traffic every day without fail - i live in Houston. My clutch doesn't grab any less hard from the first day i ran it, either on the street or at the track.

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#46572, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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so the survey says stage 3/4 clutchmasters..

any other clutches worth looking into..(im buyin a new clutch in less than a week)..

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now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

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#46588, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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I just bought a SPEC stage 3 modular clutch for $400 shipped. It's rated at 435 lb/ft and according to the Neon guys that number is an UNDERATING.

  

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#46596, "RE: Which clutch for good holding power+long life"
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>>If any clutch dies that low, you might want 6to check the front seal on your trans - if it leaks fluid, it ends up in your clutch. Lubricated clutches don't grab so well

i know that situation all too well emoji


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