Ok you know how when you have a modular clutch you have to bolt the clutch assembly to the flex plate through the little available space between the block and tranny. Well now I have a 95 flywheel. Is it going to bolt to the flexplate and then the new clutch disk just sits against it or will I still have to bolt the clutch to the flywheel. The only clutch I've ever installed is a modular one and I don't really know how this seperate setup works. I know this is a frequent topic but I've never actually seen one where the details were actually talked about.

Right, you need to bolt the clutch pressure plate to the flywheel before you put it on the car. Then you can either bolt that assembly to the flexplate before you put the tranny on, OR, you can slide the clutch on the tranny splines, then put the tranny to the block, then bolt up the flywheel to the flexplate. Most say the latter of the two is easier..A good tip if you go that route, is to pre-install the clutch on the flexplate, as there is only one way for the 4 bolts to perfectly line up. Get it on there, then mark the flexplate and the flywheel by a line on each one, so you can just line it up easily when you go to put the bolts in.

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Thanks Matt I understand perfectly now. BUT I don't see how the second way is easier. Is it really that hard to get the spindle back in? I mean you'd think it'd be easier to have it all bolted on then just slide the tranny on.

Yeah, i agree with you on that one. But many on here have proclaimed for it to be easer the other way. BUT, it is kind of tricky to get the tranny all lined up with the block and clutch all at once. The tranny slpines need to be almost PERFECTLY lined up, and the tranny at the proper angle, for it to slide into the clutch, if the clutch is already on the motor. There just really isnt much room to maneuver the tranny around, one because its heavy, and the frame of the car gets in the way. Our tranny is shaped all funky. So really, it will be easier to put the clutch assembly on the tranny splines, then put the tranny to the block. Then, line up your 2 line marks you made, then put in the 4 bolts. I have done it this way personally, but not the "other way" It seems like it would be easier, but it just isnt.

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S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
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-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

Do it the second way....i've tried both methods and easiest (but yet a pain in the butt) is the second method wehre the clutch is in the tranny spline when you put the tranny on.

The difficulty is that our engine and tranny sit in the engine bay at an angle so unless you lift the tranny at that same perfect angle, you can never align the tranny case to the engine =/ Takes me a few tries to get that going....

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Okay maybe work fried my brain here... but the explanation doesn't seem entirely accurate here.

The flywheel replaces the flexplate on a non modular set up, and bolts directly to the crank. The non-modular flywheel incoporated the friction surface for the clutch and the teeth for the starter. The the pressure plate/clutch is then bolted directly to the flywheel. Yes a clutch alignment tool is VERY helpful here or you could have the splines not line up right, and the tranny won't go on right.

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>Okay maybe work fried my brain here... but the explanation
>doesn't seem entirely accurate here.
>
>The flywheel replaces the flexplate on a non modular set up,
>and bolts directly to the crank. The non-modular flywheel
>incoporated the friction surface for the clutch and the
>teeth for the starter. The the pressure plate/clutch is then
>bolted directly to the flywheel. Yes a clutch alignment tool
>is VERY helpful here or you could have the splines not line
>up right, and the tranny won't go on right.
>


Hmmm wierd...When we did Matt_95tg's car, he has the Fidanza lightweight flywheel and a Spec clutch. Its a non-modular setup, and retains the stock flexplate. Maybe its just the Fidanza flywheel that doesnt have the starter teeth on it??? Interesting. So a non mod setup, STOCK, uses NO flexplate??

13.5 @108 MPH-2.2 60ft(stupid FWD!)
S16G @ 18 PSI/FMIC/Running on MegaSquirt II (Now with sequential
fuel injection)
My webpage: http://eclipsed4evr.home.comcast.net
-1998 Mitsubishi Eclipse RS-T- "Toy"
-1992 Plymouth Laser Turbo AWD(SOLD)
-2000 Honda CR-V(daily)

Well I have a Fidanza flywheel and you have to use the flexplate with it because the fidanza has no starter gear on it. I am not sure if a stock 95 flywheel has the starter teeth on it or not since I've never seen a non-modular one.

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From what I have seen, Fidanza makes 2 types of flywheels. There is one that is used for a car that has a modular clutch from the factory, and one that has a nonmodular clutch. The one made for factory modulars does not have teeth, and the one made for the factory nonmodulars does.

http://66.118.73.64/neon2/neonmanualTrans.htm

Has 2 Fidanza flywheels listed, one has a pic of a flywheel with teeth, and is listed as a lightweight aluminum flywheel. The other has no teeth (call a dentist, STAT!) and is listed as a rebuildable modular aluminum flywheel.

Hope this clears things up.

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Ok mine is a stock neon flywheel and it does have teeth on it. So I guess it'll replace my flexplate then. Thanks everyone.