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thegameNov-19-02 12:20 AM
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#37493, "Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"


          

Well... Im trying to decide which one to get, turbo kit or nitrous. So here are some Q's......
Hahn Stage 1 + exhaust = approx. time?
Nitrous 50 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?
Nitrous 75 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?

Right now Im running a 17.2 I only have a muffler. Im manual. Ive never been in any quick cars, but I think id like to be somewhere in the 14's or low 15's. Should any of those choices put me in that range? Besides running it at the track a few times, Ive only raced one other time. Ive been tempted by a few people, but I held back. So im not really going for a full blown race car as you can see. haha.

Im not looking into getting something extreme, but I want a pretty nice difference. And id like it to be the safest thing to do. I dont want to have to worry about anything breaking or whatnot on me while im driving. So... what do u think would be the best for me?

I know these are probably the stupidest questions I could ask, and I know Im going to feel so dumb but, what is tuning?? All ive heard from people that add a turbo/nitrous is to make sure your car is tuned well. How do I tune my car?

Also... What is building up/re-building a car? Is that just a bottom-end kit? How much is it? Do/should you have it for adding a turbo kit/nitrous?

Wow I feel extremely stupid emoji
Thank you, Brad

  

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RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), MotoFool, Nov-19-02 05:40 AM, #1
RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), MotoFool, Nov-19-02 05:41 AM, #2
RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), Cereal5, Nov-19-02 07:24 AM, #3
RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), kaotik, Nov-19-02 08:38 AM, #4
RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), thegame, Nov-19-02 11:14 PM, #5
      RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long), CluckeRMC, Nov-19-02 11:29 PM, #6

MotoFoolNov-19-02 05:40 AM
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#37494, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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get the staged turbo upgrade if u got the cash it doesn't cost money everytime u use it, go to a muffler shop and find one that has a mandrel bender or has mandrel bends instock have them wled u up a pipe and nice muffler be cheaper then a 500$ exhaust ...

intakes can be had on ebay for like 60$ if u can modify it a little for fitament..




You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.

If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good.
If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast.
If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.

  

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MotoFoolNov-19-02 05:41 AM
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#37495, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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oh yea, buy corky bells book maximum boost learn about teh system and just run low boost or use a tti head gasket... to keep your engine safe,

You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.

If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good.
If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast.
If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.

  

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Cereal5Nov-19-02 07:24 AM
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#37496, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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>Well... Im trying to decide which one to get, turbo kit or
>nitrous. So here are some Q's......
>Hahn Stage 1 + exhaust = approx. time?
>Nitrous 50 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?
>Nitrous 75 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?
>
>Right now Im running a 17.2 I only have a muffler. Im
>manual. Ive never been in any quick cars, but I think id
>like to be somewhere in the 14's or low 15's. Should any of
>those choices put me in that range? Besides running it at
>the track a few times, Ive only raced one other time. Ive
>been tempted by a few people, but I held back. So im not
>really going for a full blown race car as you can see. haha.
>
>Im not looking into getting something extreme, but I want a
>pretty nice difference. And id like it to be the safest
>thing to do. I dont want to have to worry about anything
>breaking or whatnot on me while im driving. So... what do u
>think would be the best for me?
>
>I know these are probably the stupidest questions I could
>ask, and I know Im going to feel so dumb but, what is
>tuning?? All ive heard from people that add a turbo/nitrous
>is to make sure your car is tuned well. How do I tune my
>car?
>
>Also... What is building up/re-building a car? Is that just
>a bottom-end kit? How much is it? Do/should you have it for
>adding a turbo kit/nitrous?
>
>Wow I feel extremely stupid emoji
>Thank you, Brad


for your first question:

the real question i guess is turbo vs. nitrous, because you get both a 50 shot and a 75 shot set up with your nitrous kit. This arguement has been going on forever. basically, nitruos is initially cheaper then a turbo, so some people get that instead (like me). Turbo tho sounds WAY cooler (imo) and is more or less indefinate, where as the nitrous you have to refill your tank every 8ish runs, depending on tank size, spray... etc. So either way isn't necessarily better, it just kind of depends on future plans. It sounds like to me tho nitrous would be better for you since you dont use it all that much.

Next:

Tuning your car more or less means making minor to moderate adjustments to systems (i.e. fuel, timing) so that your car is running at an ideal condition. It also means making sure your parts and everything else are in top shape, so that when you do major modifications (i.e. nitrous, turbo) you are CONSIDERABLY less likely to do major damage to your engine and/or self. It also means making the correct settings so that you are getting the most out of any given modifications. The best tuning is done on a dyno, where you can see exactly how each adjustment you make affects your car.

Next:

Building/re-building (same thing imo) means taking your engine apart and putting it back together with stronger, or better parts. Turbo guys tend to take apart there engines to replace stock pistons and rods with forged ones, so that they can run MUCH higher boost. While we have decent engines straight from the factory, they are in no competition with a fully built motor.

Anyway I hope this answers your questions, but please do bo through the "seen before" forum, and also utilize the "search" feature as much as possible. If that still fails to answer ANY further questions, don't hesitate to post, as most of these guys are great and will help out a lot! good luck!

-Mike


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kaotikNov-19-02 08:38 AM
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#37497, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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>Well... Im trying to decide which one to get, turbo kit or
>nitrous. So here are some Q's......
>Hahn Stage 1 + exhaust = approx. time?
>Nitrous 50 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?
>Nitrous 75 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time?
>
>Right now Im running a 17.2 I only have a muffler. Im
>manual. Ive never been in any quick cars, but I think id
>like to be somewhere in the 14's or low 15's. Should any of
>those choices put me in that range? Besides running it at
>the track a few times, Ive only raced one other time. Ive
>been tempted by a few people, but I held back. So im not
>really going for a full blown race car as you can see. haha.
>
>Im not looking into getting something extreme, but I want a
>pretty nice difference. And id like it to be the safest
>thing to do. I dont want to have to worry about anything
>breaking or whatnot on me while im driving. So... what do u
>think would be the best for me?
>
>I know these are probably the stupidest questions I could
>ask, and I know Im going to feel so dumb but, what is
>tuning?? All ive heard from people that add a turbo/nitrous
>is to make sure your car is tuned well. How do I tune my
>car?
>
>Also... What is building up/re-building a car? Is that just
>a bottom-end kit? How much is it? Do/should you have it for
>adding a turbo kit/nitrous?
>
>Wow I feel extremely stupid emoji
>Thank you, Brad



Hey man, if you dont ask questions you will never know.. right?

Hahn Stage 1 + exhaust = approx. time? - mid 14's
Nitrous 50 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time? -low 15's high 14's
Nitrous 75 shot + exhaust + intake = approx. time? -high14's mid 14's

the safest way to go for you would be the turbo if it is installed 100%... plus you will always have the power on hand. However the nitrious is alot cheaper and can be used on your disposal when you need it. so i guess you have to wiegh those out..

Tuning is making sure the car is running right, make sure plugs, wires, no knocks, no pings, basically a strong running upkept motor.

hopefully some of this is helpful for you!!

anyone ever thought of a drive-thru parts store? that would be cool!

  

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thegameNov-19-02 11:14 PM
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#37498, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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So if I decide to do a turbo kit (stage 1 or 2), should I build up the motor first, or should it be fine? About how much will that cost if I should? Hahns site says Ill be fine, but ive heard some stories on here about shit breaking and whatnot on stage 2, and thats what I do NOT want. Id like to have the stage 2 more because of the gorgeous fmic, but should I just get stage 1 to be safe?
Thanx, Brad

  

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CluckeRMCNov-19-02 11:29 PM
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#37499, "RE: Various Q's.Please Help.(Long)"
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It will be just fine w/ a stage 1. You wouldnt really need to build it up. Especially if you dont run it HARD all the time. You'll be cool. Stage 2, a little harder, but I'd say you could push it up to about 9 psi before you start having problems. I know Hahn says 12, but people have popped there cars at 12 on stock. So.... Go w/ a stage 1, which should get you in about the right speed range, and wont cost ya a fortune to do.



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