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DSMeclipseGSAug-28-02 09:31 AM
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I am doing the tranny swap from auto to 5 speed. I got this list form dsmtalk.com non turbo section:

1. 2G NT flywheel.
2. Manual pedal assembly
3. Clutch master cylinder and slave cylinder.
4. Manual tranny for a 420A engine.
5. Shifter and shitfer cables
6. MT mount
7 Clutch components (disk, preassure plate and throw out bearing).

My question is: will I need a MT ECU?? Does the ECU decide when an auto shifts?? If so, when I do the swap and I don't use a MT ECU will it cause problems since (I think) the MT's redline is higher than the auto's (which is 6.5K)?? And I will need a new tach gauge just for convinience right? thanks.

PS - Is my list complete??

MODS:

HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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RE: MT ECU, soldier101, Aug-28-02 09:38 AM, #1
RE: MT ECU, DSMeclipseGS, Aug-28-02 10:12 AM, #2
RE: MT ECU, RyaN95i4, Aug-28-02 10:41 AM, #3
      RE: MT ECU, soldier101, Aug-28-02 10:44 AM, #4
           RE: MT ECU, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-28-02 01:11 PM, #5
                RE: MT ECU, DSMeclipseGS, Aug-28-02 01:38 PM, #6
                     RE: MT ECU, soldier101, Aug-28-02 01:39 PM, #7
                          RE: MT ECU, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Aug-29-02 02:13 AM, #8

soldier101Aug-28-02 09:38 AM
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#31285, "RE: MT ECU"
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get the manual ecu for the same year 5 speed eclipse as yours, because it'll raise the revlimiter etc

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DSMeclipseGSAug-28-02 10:12 AM
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#31286, "RE: MT ECU"
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didn't you want to do a 5 speed swap as well?

MODS:

HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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RyaN95i4Aug-28-02 10:41 AM
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#31287, "RE: MT ECU"
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but does the ecu matter? the auto has its on ecu which controls shifts, i thought the tcm shifted at 6500, not the ecm.

i know the engine will start and run just fine w/ the tcm disconnected, but i have no idea if the limiter is different - anyone know for sure?

95 Avenger
ATX->MTX Swap
Holset HX40 @ 26 psi

  

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soldier101Aug-28-02 10:44 AM
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#31288, "RE: MT ECU"
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yes I wanted to, and still do. I'm knowledgable on this cause I studied it a lot. The auto ecu has a rev limit that's lower then the manual transmissions, so you'll be at a disadvantage to a stock 5 speed

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneAug-28-02 01:11 PM
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#31289, "RE: MT ECU"
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The auto ECU rev limits at 6750. The MT ECU revlimits at 7200. An AT ECU will worrk in a car with an MT, but will throw codes for the TCU and vehicle speed sensor.

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DSMeclipseGSAug-28-02 01:38 PM
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#31290, "RE: MT ECU"
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can i use any 2g ecu for my 98 eclipse or does it have to be same year for the conversion?

MODS:

HRC 16g turbo kit, Spearco custom FMIC, Custom IC piping, VT rebuilt engine: Custom 8.8:1 compression CP pistons, Eagle connecting rods, Melling oil pump, Clevite bearings, 370cc injectors, Vortech S-FMU, Apexi N-1 catback exhaust, AFX UDP, Autometer boost gauge, fuel pressure gauge, EGT gauge, Corbin's digital A/F gauge, Tokico Blue shocks, Tein springs (1.5" drop), 18" Konig Verdicts rims, VIS stock-style Carbon fiber hood

  

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soldier101Aug-28-02 01:39 PM
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#31291, "RE: MT ECU"
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I recommend getting the same year ecu as your car, I've heard that 97-98 ecu's will work for each other but may shoot codes

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- General George Patton (1885-1945)

  

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Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneAug-29-02 02:13 AM
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#31292, "RE: MT ECU"
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95 ans 99 are the oddball ECU's. 96, 97, and 98 *should* all be interchangeable.. but i've never tried it.

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'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



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