Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 1 User in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #19646
View in linear mode

Subject: "Engine Help" Previous topic | Next topic
mitsucar4Apr-08-02 08:08 AM
Member since Mar 22nd 2002
114 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19646, "Engine Help"


          

I've read all the articles pertaining to engines going bad on this forum and had a couple of questions. First, what does it mean when a crank has 'spun'?!?!? Second, I was driving home this past friday on the highway when I started noticing a ticking noise in the engine. Like one of the earlier articles described, it sounded like one of the valves was hitting the top of the valve cover but as I continued down the road, it got louder and louder until it sounded like someone was taking a hammer to the side of my block. I didn't drive it after that and I did start it up for a friend. It starts fine and idles but that banging sound is still there. Could this be the crank?!? my friend was telling me it might be a broken rod. I just need to know so I can start the rebuilding process. I'm tight on money so I can't afford to redo the whole engine. If I can get away with just replacing the bottom end, that would be great. Any idea?!?!?

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic
RE: Engine Help, vegasdsmr, Apr-08-02 08:15 AM, #1
RE: Engine Help, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-08-02 08:40 AM, #2
      RE: Engine Help, mitsucar4, Apr-08-02 08:49 AM, #3
           RE: Engine Help, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-08-02 09:21 AM, #4
                RE: Engine Help, daved, Apr-08-02 12:22 PM, #5
                     RE: Engine Help, mitsucar4, Apr-08-02 03:57 PM, #6
                          RE: Engine Help, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Apr-09-02 03:22 AM, #7

vegasdsmrApr-08-02 08:15 AM
Old School 2GNTer
4713 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19647, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 0


          

welp, if i were u, i would yank the valve cover, and check the valvetrain for probs.. was the sound cummin from the top or bottom of hte engine?? u may have to drop the oil pan, and see whats doin down there.....

a lil more info will proove its helpfulness...
good luck..

edit: crank spun- well, usually u spin a bearing, the crank spins... it creates play and isnt good...sorry but thats all i know

03 srt-4 13.130@112.47mph (n2o, stock turbo, 10/2003)
now: 20g, portfueler, bpu+++ (track/dyno times tbd...)

i farted on your wiki

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

    
Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneApr-08-02 08:40 AM
Donating 2GNT member
14955 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19648, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 1




          

Usually lack of lubrication causes excessive heat and friction on the bearing surface. This in turn causes the bearing to warp and buckle. usually, the final blow comes when the bearing either wears through or gets rolled over on itself, which will cause the rod/rod bolts to go, and will usually send the rod through the block.

Were you low on oil?

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

        
mitsucar4Apr-08-02 08:49 AM
Member since Mar 22nd 2002
114 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19649, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 2


          

Actually I was really low on oil at one point. That's when the ticking noise started and my engine light came on. I immediately get oil in it and the engine light went off, but the ticking was still present, but faint. I checked the block all around and didn't see any cracks. Most likely need a bottom end replacement, huh?!?!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

            
Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneApr-08-02 09:21 AM
Donating 2GNT member
14955 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19650, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 3




          

Sounds like ypu spun a rod bearing.

Drop your oil pan and check the rods for play on thier journal. There should be none. If you can move any rod at all, you have a problem.

You'll need a new crank, and if you can afford it, new rods and pistons couldn't hurt. go 10.5:1 emoji

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                
davedApr-08-02 12:22 PM
Old School 2GNTer
665 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19651, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 4


          

Is it a ticking or a knocking? Top or bottom end? A spun bearing will be more of a knocking sound, not a ticking sound. The ticking might be a lifter getting stuck or something like that. Drain the oil then get some on your fingers and hold it up to the light. If you see little metal shavings then you spun a bearing. This damn Neon engine will spin rod bearings left and right. And the reason why you didn't see any cracks on the block is because a spun bearing won't damage the block unless you snaped one of the connecting rods (like I did).

1999 Eclipse RS (all show)
1990 Turbo Eclipse (race)

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                    
mitsucar4Apr-08-02 03:57 PM
Member since Mar 22nd 2002
114 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19652, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 5


          

Thanks guys. Actually it started as a ticking, but now it's definitely a knocking noise. I'll end up buying the bottom kit from howells but where could I pick up a crank other than the dealer?!?!?

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

                        
Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOneApr-09-02 03:22 AM
Donating 2GNT member
14955 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#19653, "RE: Engine Help"
In response to Reply # 6




          

You could try a junkyard.. but they mostly sell full engines not internal parts. If you try that route, look for nice shiny journals, no scoring, no rust, no blueing, no signs of heat or high friction. Polish the journals with 400grit and it should be okay..

But before you go sped all that money, drop your oil pan and check your bottom end.. any obvious signs of wear, play, or metal fragments...

______________________________
If a sentence found online has 35% misspellings or greater and includes at least two racially charged expletives, chances are it is a YouTube comment.

'95 Eclipse TurboGS (garage deco)
'95 TSi AWD (restoring a survivor)
'97 Talon ESi-T (poor impulse control)
'99 Eclipse RS-T (daily beater)
'13 Evo X (mostly stock)
'17 Sienna (Middle Aged Dad Mobile)



Factory Service Manuals: http://nawdu.de/files/

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine topic #19646 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.076 seconds, executing 28 queries.