I know I have to take the head off the car and take the entire head apart but, Has anyone done this yet? I just want to make sure I have some sort of support when I try to do this.

Can I just send the head out and have them do that and upgrade the rest of the head too. I know Howell has head rebuild kits but it doesn't say anything about stanless valves.

Well I haven't been able to find a valvespring compressor the right size to fit in our head to remove the valves so you may run in to a problem there. If you know what you are doing you can take it apart and put it together but doing headwork is another thing altogether. If you are going to replacing the valves you should go ahead and get the head ported and increase the valve size to allow more air in. When you increase the valve size the valve seat size must be increased also. May as well get the 3 angle valve job done while it's all apart too.

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Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

But if I increase the size of the valves my idle would probably suffer. Wait- I love the sound of a car that can't idle!

Didn't howell do three angle valve jobs and upgrade valvetrain?

I wasn't planning on doing my own head polishing. I just wanted to upgrade my valves if I ever run a serious nitrous set-up.

If you are worried about strength then I wouldn't upgrade valves without valve springs and retainers.

The valve spring compressor is a problem. Mopar and Snap-On I believe make a tool that will allow you to compress the vlave springs so you can remove and install valve springs. I don't know how much the tool is... but it's not cheap.

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Also get the PT Rockers and PT Lifters since Mopar redesigned them and they can handle higher RPM than the current ones.

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Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

well looks like I have a project for the summer. How much you think this will all run me on parts alone?

BLACKDOGMOTORSPORTS - Stainless steel valves(normal or oversized) $340
BLACKDOGMOTORSPORTS - PT Lash Adjusters and Rockers $93 and $145
BLACKDOGMOTORSPORTS - Crane Springs and Titanium Retainers $269
BLACKDOGMOTORSPORTS - Cylinder Head Services:

Street Port Head- port clean up, mild port matching, very minor reshaping of ports $550
Race Port Head- full port work, gasket matched or oversize ports, combustion chamber reshaping. $825
Install larger valves, 3 angle valve job: add $190
Full radius valve seats, thee ultimate valve job, as used by Robert Yates Racing: add $280
cylinder head coating-includes thermal barrier in chambers and exhaust ports: $320
Core charge on all heads is $375



Howell Automotive - Eaton PT Style Lash Adjusters $89.95
Howell Automotive - Crane Springs and Titanium Retainers $259.95
Howell Automotive - Cylinder Head Services:

Stage 1- Smooth the casting, light bowl work and blend the seats. $560.00
Stage 2- Stage 1 plus, mild combustion chamber work, and mild port matching. $700.00
Stage 3- Stage 2 plus, full race port with reshaped ports, reshaped combustion chamber, and full port matching. $840.00


CNNP Racing - Crane Spring and Titanium Retainer Kit $265
CNNP Racing - Rage Dual Valve Spring and Retainer kit - $385
CNNP Racing - RAGE Stainless Steel Valves $340 ($299 with head work)
CNNP Racing - Cylinder Head Services:
Stage I - III Race Head
Three angle valve job performed on a Serdi valve machine. Ports are cleaned of any casting flash, polished, then the valve seats are radiused into the bowls. The head is then resurfaced and chambers are deburred and cc matched to achieve a 10.4:1 compression ratio. (ratio's up to 11.4:1 available for SOHC). All heads are cleaned, reassembled and are ready for installation. Plus precise port matching to your choice of stock or aftermarket exhaust and intake manifolds. Enlarging and reshaping of the ports and bowls to increase flow to handle high RPM needs (Note: all porting is done to keep as much velocity as possible). Balancing of the exhaust/intake flow rates to optimum for your application (normally aspirated, nitrous/supercharged or turbocharged) on a Superflow 110 flowbench. Pricing starts at $850 (plus $300 refundable core charge).



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Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...

Woah why are those porting prices so high? How much do they port out?

Street Port Head- port clean up, mild port matching, very minor reshaping of ports $550

That sounds like what I got done at Road Race and it cost me 200. They offered me 3 different stages, costing 200, 400, or 600 for porting the head. They also showed me how our stock heads are really small, and the excess they got rid of. But I don't think porting is necessary unless you go high horsepower turbo.

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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl
1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl

Damn, We should put this in the "Thing's seen before" section for the new kids on the block.

Thanks for your help guys!