#14527, "Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...."
TTiracing.com (Azizi Tucker) is also working to come up with a 420a-specific ecu. Apparently, he says it will work with any 420a, and this baby is proposed to be turbo compatible and rev limit adjustable. (fuel,ignition,idle speed,rev limits, use of CEL...etc.)
Pinch me, am I dreaming? (heheh) Of course, as a realist, I'll believe it when I see it, but it's better than putting all of your eggs into one basket.
_____________________________________ Jason ESi-T
04' BMW 325Ci 91' Nissan 240SX 98' Eagle Talon ESi (sold)
Perf: KYB AGX Struts Neuspeed Sport Springs 5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L) Sprint Front Camber Kit $15 Rear Camber Kit Corbin's A/F Gauge MSD DIS-2 Ignition System Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have) Ported Intake Manifold Ported Throttle Body Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler Empty Catalytic Convertor Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts Hurricane_GS Short Shifter Symborsky Shift Kit Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular 225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires
Audio: Alpine CD Head Unit Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears 3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono
Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...
#14533, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 5
What's so weird is that there is all this aftermarket support for an economy car neon, versus not much at all for a 2gnt sports car. Is it because for eclipses, there is already so much support for the 4g63? It just seems odd because I don't think that many people fix up neons do they?
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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl 1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl
#14534, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 6
The neon came out and right away Mopar was dumping LOADS of money in to it for SCCA and road racing. They handle fairly well and are very light weight. Plus the DOHC 420A was the sporty motor as compared the the SOHC where in our case with the 2g, the 4g63 is the sporty motor and the 420A DOHC is not.
Perf: KYB AGX Struts Neuspeed Sport Springs 5 Strut Bars (2 F/U, F/L, R/U, R/L) Sprint Front Camber Kit $15 Rear Camber Kit Corbin's A/F Gauge MSD DIS-2 Ignition System Some Regrind Cams that need High Compression (which I don't have) Ported Intake Manifold Ported Throttle Body Drop in K&N Filter and open airbox Custom 2 1/2 inch exhaust with Dual DTM Muffler Empty Catalytic Convertor Energy Suspension Motor Mount inserts Hurricane_GS Short Shifter Symborsky Shift Kit Clutchmasters Stage 3 Modular 225/50/16inch Wheels and Tires
Audio: Alpine CD Head Unit Alpine Flex4 25W X 4 for Fronts and Rears Alpine V-12 450W X 1 for Subs Infinity Reference Series 5 1/4 and 1 inch tweeter component systems for fronts and rears Blaupunkt 3 way 6x9's in the rears 3 MTX 5000 10" 12 ohm subs running 4 ohms mono
Flame Red SRT-4 GT40,8.5:1 Built Shortblock, Brian Crower Stage 2 Cams, etc etc etc...
#14536, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 8
toney thats not true .. if afx's ecu came out after the proposed one in this yopic than i would go with the afx only because they took there time and prepared it carefully
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#14537, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 9
Maybe this can heed some folks not to get their hopes up too much...
We at ASOG a looong time ago took our ecu's to superchips wehre they said they could modify our ecu's. After months of work done, it was found that our ecu's are NOT flasheable or modifiable. I dont have the full details, but i can find it if you wish. I just hope no one gets their hopes up on having anything modified on our ecu....
my 3.49 and no more change left...
_________________ Vinnie Lima vlima@csc.com AIM: Kiku888 1997 Chrysler Sebring "Silver XTC" I4 420a w/ HRC Stage 2.45 w/ FMIC 14.7@97 mph@6psi Proud member of the ASOG BoOsT JuNkIe Crew
#14538, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 10
I am pretty positiv ethat if howell can modify 97+ neon ecu's, they can modify ours. I have had information input into my car ecu by hte dealer before (not sure if that is flashing or not) but they have corrected my vin # info and my curent mileage in the computer's programing. I think superchips might have been pulling some people's chain, or just didn't have the programing needed to modify chrysler ecu's. quick way to find out is to see if they offer ecu modification for 97+ neons. if they don't............
A.D.P. bring it on............
A.D.P. "...If you do too much, people become dependant. If you do to little, people loose hope. If you do it right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all." bring it on...........
#14539, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 11
well if AFX's computer can be programmed by the user then i would go with them of course, but whichever has the most options (with price considered of course) I would go with. Not having the ecu isnt a prob for me now cuz im not turbo yet, but hopefully by the end of the summer I will be atleast stage 1
Toney '97 RS 5 Speed (totaled) 15.4606@88.42 Mph 96 Toyota Celica GT 88 Toyota Supra NA-T (w/ sports package) Got Boost?? Hell yeah I-6 turbo powah baby!
#14540, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 12
I swear I warned ASOG before they started with superchips they are a fraud. Have seen but a few test of superchips on imports (although ours is domestic but with typical import tech) and all they did was lose hp. Lost 4hp on an integra (the one Turbo mag didn't print any name for, they did on VTEC.net dont ask why I was there). Lost hp SCC project probe, they went back to stock. They are right up there with JET (which also claimed to tune neon PCMs which just happened to perform just as stock in Mopar Now's testing). Of course they couldn't do anything. Good for ASOG cause you all would have likely had slower cars (reminds me I just had the Upsolute chip rep take out my ECU, desolder a chip from it, pull the complete program out of my VW, upload it on his laptop computer, save it, put OE program back in my ECU, installed it back in my car and send my factory program to the astralian headquaters via PC to be custom tuned all while I watched. In a few days he puts the new prgram in. Cost: $300).
:farfrommugen: Yes I still own a 2gnt. Damn right I've been here longer than U klassic_liven@yahoo.com
#14541, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 13
Hey Stan, is it true that an ECU upgrade on a new GTI 1.8t will give you about 20 hp? I think it can also raise the boost right? I know you have a VR6, but just wondering if you know about the 1.8t.
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2004 WRX - WR Blue Pearl 1997 Eclipse GS - Royal Sapphire Pearl
#14542, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 14
>Hey Stan, is it true that an ECU upgrade on a new GTI 1.8t >will give you about 20 hp? I think it can also raise the >boost right? I know you have a VR6, but just wondering if >you know about the 1.8t.
Actually more like 50hp on 2001 and older 150hp versions and about 40hp on 02' 180hp versions. Upsolute raises boost from stock 8.7 to 1 bar (14.7psi). Neuspeed raises it to 11psi and GIAC to 1.2bar. Your friend should pick up the March issue of Grassroots motorsports. they test a chipped neuspeed 1.8T and dyno a GIAC chipped car (went from 130hp @the wheels to 173hp on the 150hp version). BTW dont get neuspeed, they are too conservative and always produce less power than most other chips.
the general conscenses is these are the best two chippers for VW but the Upsolute is alot cheaper for turbo cars (all chips $325) while Garretts are $500 for turbo cars and $300 and less for NA cars. The Upsolute guy says Garrett(GIAC) does good work and he has nothing bad to say about their chips, Upsolute just cost less for turbo cars. Also said GIAC get 1.2bar vs 1bar for theres but they still dyno the same. Also check the forums at http://www.vwvortex.com
:farfrommugen: Yes I still own a 2gnt. Damn right I've been here longer than U klassic_liven@yahoo.com
#14544, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 16
SUPER DIPS???? A friend of mine has a mustand and they couldn't even get it right for that, those guys are the biggest scam on earth import or domestic...I'm just waiting for someone to finally get something good for us!!!! We have one of the best built blocks and nobody makes as much as they do for cheap ass honduhs....makes me mad, but they still can't hang so who cares.
#14546, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 18
Heh looks like AFX is the way to roll baby. I already got one AFX product wouldn't mind having another. But didn't they say that the AFX ECU will work with our cars just that we need to rewire the harness? Man I just hope it can do the same shiz as a super AFC, so I can get my money's worth
Heh looks like we'll have to call it 2GNT & Avenger Special OPS, I have to say they probably have less support than the 2GNTs do but they are very similar. ^_^
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#14547, "RE: Another Vendor is working on a 420a ECU...." In response to Reply # 19
my gf just recently got a 1.8t, used. the car has intake, weld on muff, and it must have some sort of chip in it. all i can say is that my car would lose badly. she hasnt taken it to the track but it must be in the mid 14's. i took my friend for a ride in it and he compared it to his brothers 5.0 mustang in acceleration. just what he said. i still think the crustang would beat it but its comparable. -Josh
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