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moosieFeb-16-09 07:29 AM
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#124086, "Have a ? about 420a head dowels"


          

I just recently had my head and block resurfaced for a rebuild.While surfing online i came across an article that said, if you had your head resurfaced on a 420a ,that you would have problems with the dowel on the firewall side of the block being to long...I really highly doubt this but was just checking with some of you guys to see if you have heard of this before,or if there is any truth to it.

  

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RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Feb-16-09 07:34 AM, #1
RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, moosie, Feb-16-09 07:37 AM, #2
      RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, Moderatorbullettdsm, Feb-16-09 01:59 PM, #3
           RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, Moderatorcs82685, Feb-16-09 02:25 PM, #4
                RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, 420agreenvilleSC, Feb-16-09 06:08 PM, #5
                     RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, irregular defect, Nov-16-09 11:14 PM, #6
                          RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, Global Ruler Of All ThingsDarkOne, Nov-17-09 09:59 AM, #7
                               RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, irregular defect, Nov-17-09 10:43 AM, #8
                                    RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, irregular defect, Nov-17-09 02:25 PM, #9
                                         RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels, irregular defect, Nov-17-09 07:42 PM, #10

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#124087, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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Depends on how much you had taken off, but i've never heard of the dowel being too long.

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#124089, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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cool thats kinda what I thought... thanks

  

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#124094, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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Took off .020 with no dowel problems. Neon guy I know took off .040 with no dowel problems.

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#124095, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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are you sure what you saw said there was an issue with the dowels?

There are known issues with the hole for the head bolt in that corner to have not been machined deep enough which can result in a leaky HG because your head bolt bottoms out before the head can be torqued to proper specs (although a torque wrench will tell you otherwise due to the bolt bottoming out) This problem is mitigate by using head studs or cutting off a few threads from your head bolt


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#124099, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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if you're worried about it, grind it down a bit

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#128744, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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Sorry to bump this old thread guys, but I searched and this was the only thing related.

I'm doing a headgasket. Took the head to the shop to be milled and they noticed the passenger dowel was broke in half. They got the one half out of the head, but now I've got the other half that's in the block to try to get out. Sprayed it with some PB and tried to wiggle it with some needlenose and it feels like it's not gonna be moving, not easily anyways. I'm thinking a screw extractor? I know I'll have to be super careful to not fuck up the block surface. Any suggestions? Anyone ever ran into this before?

  

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#128745, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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Last broken one I had, I removed with a pair of vice grips.

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#128746, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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I only have this much material to grab onto.....Haha...

  

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#128747, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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Well, 8 bucks for a screw extractor bit ain't doin jack shit. Looks like drilling it is the next and only option. Just another step that is a pain in the ass.

  

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#128755, "RE: Have a ? about 420a head dowels"
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For future search purposes, I was able to get it out. DarkOne suggested that I just shatter it, so I took a big flat head screw driver to it, because I couldn't find my chisel. All the flat head did was push it further down into the block, but movement it what I was looking for, I knew once the "bond" between the block and the dowel was broke, it would come out. So when the dowel moved down into the head about a 1/16th, I grabbed the screw extractor again and worked it right out. Thanks to DarkOne and Ebster. Hope this helps someone in the future.

  

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