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Jem09Jan-21-06 06:19 PM
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#3936, "AT To MT Swap Question..."


          

Peace,
I own a 97' AT RS and I recently came across a opportunity to purchase all the parts (shifting assembly, pedel set, clutch lines, trans., etc.) for a Automatic to Manual swap... My question is, it's coming off a 95' RS and to my knowledge, those 420's are diff., I don't know the specifics, but I know it has two diff. plugs in the harness (engine) then the 97-99 420's. Is the trans. diff. too? Can I install the 95' set up onto the 97' without having to make any modifications/rewiring?

I'd also like to know, just to be certain before I pull all the parts off, what parts are needed for the swap, besides a clutch system & flywheel?

-Trans.
-Clutch Cables
-Shift Assembly
-Pedal Assembly

---Anythin' else?


I obviously don't know anythin' about transmissions. I intend to rebuild the trans. before installin', but I don't know what should be rebuilt and before I go to a shop I'd like to know what I'm talkin' about so that they don't try and fu!k around... I don't trust anyone and havin' them realize "I know" what I'm talkin' about may actually make them do it right the First Time... What needs to be rebuilt, what parts (the only thing I know about, is to use the OEM trans. fluid)? Lastly, what clutch system and flywheel should I go with? I'm "all aspirated", but will eventually be boosted by the end of this year. What "normal" set up will hold tru for the time being and what set up should I change to once boosted? I've read threads where certain known brands such as Clutchmaster, ACT, etc. weren't as good and didn't perform as expected.

As always, I appreciate anyone willin' to answer and give up there time to help me out...


Peace,
Jem

  

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RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Jem09, Jan-21-06 09:36 PM, #1
RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Jem09, Jan-21-06 10:51 PM, #2
RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Jem09, Jan-21-06 11:15 PM, #3
      RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Keith2172, Jan-24-06 12:30 PM, #4
           RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Teamdougie2, Jan-24-06 12:35 PM, #5
                RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Chamuko, Jan-25-06 08:43 AM, #6
                     RE: AT To MT Swap Question..., Jem09, Feb-10-06 07:15 PM, #7

Jem09Jan-21-06 09:36 PM
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#3937, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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I forgot to add that I also need an ECU for the MT...


Peace,
Jem

  

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Jem09Jan-21-06 10:51 PM
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#3938, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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To be honest, I just started readin' up on the 1G Neon SOHC 355 trans. swap... I may just go this route instead of installin' the regular Eclipse tranny bein' it isn't as productive as the Neons... From what I've read so far, it seems simple to do... I'm sure all of you that have answered this que. 100's of times are gettin' tired of doin' it, but when I'm not 100% comfortable with somethin' ahead of time, I'll ask someone who is...

From what I understand, I'm goin' to purchase the Bellhousing (or complete MT of the Eclipse) and purchase/use the 1G Neon SOHC 355 trans., also needin' to swap out the Neon Speed Sensor. That seems to be it...

Basically, everythin' needed for an AT to MT swap stays the same, besides the tranny and speed sensor correct?



Best Regards,
Jem

  

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Jem09Jan-21-06 11:15 PM
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#3939, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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Originally posted by Jem09
I forgot to add that I also need an ECU for the MT... Peace, Jem



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Keith2172Jan-24-06 12:30 PM
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#3942, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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Search first, that's the single greatest thing you can do to acquire a lot of knowledge in a short amount of time. If that doesn't work then try this in the Manual Trans. section, you may have more help over there. (Im saying this as sincerely as possible, please don't think I'm trying to be mean to you)

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Teamdougie2Jan-24-06 12:35 PM
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#3944, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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I didn't read this entire thread, but all you need is a 95 MT ECU (only neccessary if you want to rev > 6500) and any year 2GNT 5-speed tranny w/ all accessories. The Neon 3.55 tranny will also work just fine. You'll need to completely remove the TCU.



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ChamukoJan-25-06 08:43 AM
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#3945, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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Jan-25-06 08:43 AM by Chamuko



          

wow posted on my b-day... no wonder i didnt see it.

http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT%20with%20pictures%20in%20document.htm

there the write up in progress. Its easy. If you can take pics for me that would be great. any questions? just e-mail or post it.

Yes im still working on it 5 min at a time when I can.

http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/Parts%20list%20for%20the%20swap.htm

parts list, crude but working

if they dont load upon clicking just hit reload. Dont know why it does that... stupid host.

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Jem09Feb-10-06 07:15 PM
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#3961, "RE: AT To MT Swap Question..."
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Originally posted by Keith2172
Search first, that's the single greatest thing you can do to acquire a lot of knowledge in a short amount of time. If that doesn't work then try this in the Manual Trans. section, you may have more help over there. (Im saying this as sincerely as possible, please don't think I'm trying to be mean to you)



Good lookin' out and I didn't take offense... I can tell when someone is bein' "mean"... I appreciate you hittin' me back and replyin' to my questions...


Originally posted by dougie2
I didn't read this entire thread, but all you need is a 95 MT ECU (only neccessary if you want to rev > 6500) and any year 2GNT 5-speed tranny w/ all accessories. The Neon 3.55 tranny will also work just fine. You'll need to completely remove the TCU.



I'm def. goin' with the 3.55 tranny... Good lookin' out as well...


Originally posted by Chamuko
wow posted on my b-day... no wonder i didnt see it. http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMT%20with%20pictures%20in%20document.htm there the write up in progress. Its easy. If you can take pics for me that would be great. any questions? just e-mail or post it. Yes im still working on it 5 min at a time when I can. http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/Parts%20list%20for%20the%20swap.htm parts list, crude but working if they dont load upon clicking just hit reload. Dont know why it does that... stupid host.



I truly appreciate the "Parts List"...as this is somethin' I was really wantin' to take into account...jus to make sure every part/bolt is there when needed...

I'm goin' to re-post this into the MT section as suggested by Keith2172...


Peace,
Jem

  

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