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amljbsJul-19-03 07:25 PM
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#1583, "Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
Jul-19-03 07:27 PM by amljbs

          

I get so sick of people saying oh your auto you are slow as shit. I have proven to several manuals around here that our shitty little autos can tear their asses up but so many on this board think we are a joke. They have no advantage over us with the mods we have for our tranny excpet for being able to launch much faster. After the initial jump we have the advantage. What do we have to do to get some respect.


Sorry guys just venting and you all are the only ones who would care

1998 Eclipse GST

  

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RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., dfresh, Jul-19-03 11:16 PM, #1
RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., amljbs, Jul-20-03 05:44 PM, #2
      RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., soulcontroller, Jul-20-03 06:24 PM, #3
           RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., jsupetran, Jul-20-03 07:42 PM, #4
                RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Dark Ringleader, Jul-21-03 02:59 AM, #5
                     RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., soulcontroller, Jul-21-03 06:29 AM, #6
                          RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., ThE oRACLe, Jul-21-03 06:36 AM, #7
                               RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Teamdougie2, Jul-22-03 05:40 AM, #8
                                    RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., WIKKI, Aug-17-03 07:05 PM, #9
                                         RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., KLIPZ22, Aug-18-03 05:01 PM, #10
                                              RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., InFiNiT3, Aug-20-03 11:02 PM, #11
                                                   RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., EclipseRST, Aug-24-03 12:53 PM, #12
                                                   RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Dark Ringleader, Aug-25-03 06:03 AM, #13
                                                   RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Joe B Slow, Aug-25-03 06:06 AM, #14
                                                        RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Dark Ringleader, Aug-25-03 07:07 AM, #15
                                                             RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Nomosun, Sep-26-03 06:21 PM, #16
                                                                  RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., LeakyMitsu, Oct-26-03 11:43 AM, #17
                                                                       RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Franklindsm, Oct-26-03 01:02 PM, #18
RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., discount_tyr420a, Oct-28-03 05:13 AM, #19
RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Teamdougie2, Oct-28-03 03:38 PM, #20
      RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., discount_tyr420a, Oct-30-03 02:24 AM, #21
           RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Teamdougie2, Oct-30-03 03:34 PM, #22
                RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., discount_tyr420a, Oct-31-03 05:50 AM, #23
                     RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., blcktalipse, Nov-03-03 10:26 AM, #24
                          RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Franklindsm, Nov-03-03 01:33 PM, #25
                               RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., WIKKI, Nov-03-03 02:11 PM, #26
                                    RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Franklindsm, Nov-03-03 04:29 PM, #27
                                         RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., blcktalipse, Nov-04-03 07:08 PM, #28
                                              RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., WIKKI, Nov-04-03 08:26 PM, #29
                                                   RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., Franklindsm, Nov-05-03 06:47 AM, #30
                                                        RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke., TeamMichael_97RS, Nov-11-03 06:19 AM, #31

dfreshJul-19-03 11:16 PM
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#1584, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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keep stomping that ass........

dfresh

will post more pics when front is painted

  

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amljbsJul-20-03 05:44 PM
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#1594, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Yeah we are so damn funny untill we kick their ass and they stop laughing.

1998 Eclipse GST

  

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soulcontrollerJul-20-03 06:24 PM
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#1596, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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we dont have the ability to downshift and go as quickly as a manual...

so, basically around town they do have an advantage... downshifting is the r0x0r.

the off the line problem can be solved with a higher stall TQ converter. we still wont be able to downshift like a manual though. thats just the way it is.

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#1597, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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that and the powerloss with the atx.

and my mom say that they are faster and fun to drive, but i love my clipse.

-------jezreel

  

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Dark RingleaderJul-21-03 02:59 AM
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#1603, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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5-speeds are much more fun to drive, but what's great about an automatic is as your blazing by some v8 you can be chompin down on your Crispy Chicken Sandwich to make him that much more embarassed.

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#1606, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Jul-21-03 06:29 AM by soulcontroller

          

hahahahahahaha dark. that was funny. and true.

manuals are more fun. i do enjoy the challenge of making my a/t fast though.

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ThE oRACLeJul-21-03 06:36 AM
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#1609, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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best way to over come the ( slow off the line problem ) weight reduce .. i cant stress this enough .. ive been hella light for over a year now and cant be happier ~~!!~~ im actually looking for more reductions

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#1638, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Who cares what people on this board say!? You should've seen the look on this guy's face the other day when I whooped his ass driving with my knee, eating a sandwich with one hand, smoking with the other at about 120mph. Priceless! Upgrade your TC, add a turbo, and you'll significantly improve your performance.



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#1775, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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>Who cares what people on this board say!? You should've seen
>the look on this guy's face the other day when I whooped his
>ass driving with my knee, eating a sandwich with one hand,
>smoking with the other at about 120mph. Priceless! Upgrade
>your TC, add a turbo, and you'll significantly improve your
>performance.



LOL I gotta see that!

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#1776, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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;( you guys give me so much hope

  

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#1785, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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fuck that bro.......
getting head u can do w/ an auto.. i wanna see a guy drive around town w/ a stick that can get that!!!!!!!!


plus...why the hell hasnt anyone tried the sport-tronic mod?


jake


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#1799, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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>fuck that bro.......
>getting head u can do w/ an auto.. i wanna see a guy drive
>around town w/ a stick that can get that!!!!!!!!
>

He's right

Sometimes I wish I had an auto.

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#1800, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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>fuck that bro.......
>getting head u can do w/ an auto.. i wanna see a guy drive
>around town w/ a stick that can get that!!!!!!!!

amazingly enough I know someone who has.

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#1801, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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>plus...why the hell hasnt anyone tried the sport-tronic mod?

Paypall me 999.99 and Ill do it:).

It just isnt worth it. If i were to spend 999.99 on something that will make my car shift maybe 1/2 second faster, id take that money and buy a manual and a start on a turbo kit.

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#1802, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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>>plus...why the hell hasnt anyone tried the sport-tronic
>mod?
>
>Paypall me 999.99 and Ill do it:).
>
>It just isnt worth it. If i were to spend 999.99 on something
>that will make my car shift maybe 1/2 second faster, id take
>that money and buy a manual and a start on a turbo kit.


I'd buy hookers... the clean kind...

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Tein S-Tech
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chris2wire: you've been uber'd

  

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#2002, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Infinit3...
Finally someone who thinks just like me...the only thing im gonna miss goin from at -> mt is the road dome, i mean what can be better?

PIMPGANGSTER




AT-> MT swap coming soon

  

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#2151, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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do you guys know where the at to mt write up is? please post the link i cant find it.

  

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#2152, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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http://www34.brinkster.com/chamukogs/ATtoMTswapWritten%20by%20Mike.htm

search harder

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#2160, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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hey guys...i know the feeling. but i made a bet with silverNT from the board here...300 bucks to bring my quarter times from 16.8(stock time) to 15.8. already have final drive and tq lockup mod in mind, and if i can get it, an AT shift kit. and if this works....we have improved our times to being a stick for the price of a new clutch for them. and boy do i ever want to show them it can be don

1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile
KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 )
10.3mm OBX wires
NGK Plugs
18" Konig Elan
225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport
Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback
OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty
Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves

to come...
lambo doors possibly

  

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#2161, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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16.8 stock w/ ATX? I don't think so. Are you telling me you ran a 16.8 in COMPLETELY stock form? I call BS.



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#2170, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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dougie...i did run completely stock a 16.8, only two factors tho, a cheap cone filter on stock ait tube from autozone and premium gas. that is it...i promise you.

1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile
KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 )
10.3mm OBX wires
NGK Plugs
18" Konig Elan
225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport
Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback
OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty
Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves

to come...
lambo doors possibly

  

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#2175, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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You must have one hell of a factory freak and know how to race. I'd still like to see a slip! That's great



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#2178, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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haha...well, i ran like an 18.2 first time out, but the next week i got 17.2, 16.8, and 17.1. so at least i can say things are consistant. but if anyone has an idea on how to spend 150 to make our cars go faster with an auto besides the final drive, tq-lockup switch, and a shift kit....let me know, cuz if this works we'll show them sticks what we are made o 15's and 16's with road hummers...lol

1995 RS AT w/196,000 mile
KYB AGX w/Eibach Sportline($485.0 )
10.3mm OBX wires
NGK Plugs
18" Konig Elan
225/40-18 Michelin Pilot Sport
Toucan Muffler w/2.5" catback
OBX Header w/ hollowed kitty
Port/Polished Head w/ SS Valves

to come...
lambo doors possibly

  

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#2192, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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kinda off topic:anyone know a good shift kit and where to get link plz

  

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#2193, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Read the very first thread in the A604 Section for shift kit information.

Corbin didnt put it there for a paper weight:thumbsup


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#2194, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Joe that is not like you!

the kit that is available for our cars is the TransGo kit. many of us have done this sucessfully. the best place to get it is here.

http://www.northernautoparts.com/ProductModelDetail.cfm?ProductModelId=2489

please feel free to start a thread if you have any questions on the install. we have a lot of knowledgeable people to help you out. search around in this forum also for some of your questions. there is a lot of info here.

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#2195, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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Yes mothe .

I could have told him everything but then id be a hypocrite later on if I ever tell someone to search for stuf .

But yea, there are lots of companies that make the shift kit.

txchange.com has one too. All about the same price.

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#2198, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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thanks didnt mean to act like a noob and not do a search but it was on mind after reading those posts and didnt think about searching sorry bout that didnt mean to piss ya of

  

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It's all goo

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#2200, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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DON'T LET IT HAPPEN AGAI







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#2212, "RE: Why do the manuals think we are such a joke."
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You can make the A604 alright. There is still more power loss through the tranmission. A higher stall torque converter is good, don't stall above 3k rpm or the TCU will go into safe mode, and you'll never get out of 2nd gear. The other big killer in the 1/4 is the time between shifts, auto can take as much as a like 2 or 3 seconds to shift between gears. Shift kit can help that out.

I'll talk to Steve or the guy we use to build auto transmissions and see about shift kits, etc.

The difference in gear ratio's also a factor. The final drive mod will also give you some giddy-up.

For me it's all about fun to drive factor and power loss. Until you start making some serious power, I need all the power to the ground I can get. On a street car I don't see me driving an auto. If I built an obscenely fast drag car I'd concider it.



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