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ModeratorbullettdsmSep-18-06 02:07 PM
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#5354, "169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
Sep-18-06 02:38 PM by bullettdsm

          

Well, I said I would post when I got the Safc adjustments done. Didn't add much but it was something. 3 more horses and .5 (ft-lbs) torque. If I had more time on the dyno I may have been able to smooth it out a bit more and get up to 170. But I really didn't want to spend the time and the money just to pull a 1/2 horse more out of it. Here's the link;

http://www.putfile.com/pic.php?img=3433606


On the downside, something happened on the dyno with my linkage/shifter. She's now shifting like a 1g turbo . or maybe it's that noisy ass Spec clutch I got in there that sounds like a bag of springs between shifts . I dunno, I'll check it out. Hoping to get back on the track this week.

Anyway, happy with the numbers and, as you can see, the Safc will get you more, but not a lot more.

MB

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96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

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RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, StreetRacer_21, Sep-18-06 02:25 PM, #1
RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, Moderatorbullettdsm, Sep-18-06 02:44 PM, #2
      RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, StreetRacer_21, Sep-18-06 04:26 PM, #3
           RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, 420a-Tnthewerks, Sep-18-06 06:05 PM, #4
                RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, cougar694u, Sep-19-06 02:34 AM, #5
                     RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, TeamAvenger, Sep-19-06 07:58 AM, #6
                          RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, Moderatorbullettdsm, Sep-20-06 09:39 AM, #7
                               RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, cc8balla, Sep-22-06 04:53 AM, #8
                                    RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC, Moderatorbullettdsm, Sep-24-06 09:02 AM, #9

StreetRacer_21Sep-18-06 02:25 PM
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#5355, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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I see 166.66 and 140.84 I dunno... SO what's you mod list?

  

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#5356, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Originally posted by StreetRacer_21
I see 166.66 and 140.84 I dunno... SO what's you mod list?



DOH! Yeah, you see right. Fixed it, sorry.

My list:

Inside:
JE 10.5
Crower 2
Stainless valves
.020 off head
5 angle valve job
Personal port and polish (intake and exhaust)
MLS Head gasket
Of course, full rebuild on bearing etc. (stock)
Full float wrist pins

Outside:
AF/X pulley
AF/X ECU
Jeep 60 mm TB
Personal port and polish intake
1 adj. cam gear on intake side
SAFC
E-bay Ram air intake
Catch can
E-bay 4-1 header (cleaned up with grinder)
"hi-flow cat"
2.5 exhaust
No power steering

Suspension;
tiens and adj KYB's (1.8 drop) in front
stock springs adj KYB in back

Spec stage 4 modular

ngk 7's and msd 8.5 wires and coil.

MB


Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

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StreetRacer_21Sep-18-06 04:26 PM
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#5357, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Thats ALOT more than I have... LOL

  

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420a-TnthewerksSep-18-06 06:05 PM
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#5358, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Good job man

  

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cougar694uSep-19-06 02:34 AM
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#5359, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Sep-19-06 02:35 AM by cougar694u



          

Major props to you, those are some good numbers. Most people shun N/A, but that close 170 whp is pretty damn good.

~Luke
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TeamAvengerSep-19-06 07:58 AM
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#5360, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Sep-19-06 07:59 AM by Avenger



          

Nice numbers.

EDIT: I can't read graphs. lol.

-"Easy Mac"
05 Mazda RX-8 (RR8 #88)
99 Eclipse RS 398whp & 372lb-ft

  

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ModeratorbullettdsmSep-20-06 09:39 AM
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#5362, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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I appreciate the props guys , thanks!

Cougar69; you know it's the challenge of the whole thing. I did this with the old bugs, so it kind of fit nicely. But I think I am at a crossroads of going MSnS or no more HP (unless I go ITB's and I'll need MSnS for that ). Maybe over the winter. Not so sure that I can pull 30 HP out of it , but I would be curious to see how much.

Avenger; the graph looks cool but if you want the cheaters view you can just read the bottom of it to see the max numbers (J/K)

Now if I could just find time to get down to the track with all my little adjustments..........

Thanks again,

MB

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

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cc8ballaSep-22-06 04:53 AM
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#5363, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Woo, I keep checking this area for updated fromm you Mark. 170 whp is pretty damn impressive. I think it's time to maybe work on the ITB's and a true LTH, maybe put to use some of the ideas thrown around here, no?



Jason|1997 Eclipse RS

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ModeratorbullettdsmSep-24-06 09:02 AM
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#5364, "RE: 169.58 whp + 141.15 tq new NA highs on SAFC"
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Well, finally found time to hit the track (New England Dragway, 3 hrs away) and they had a rainout! Crap. I'll just have to do Englishtown this weekend with a no-look dial-in.

Jason, I appreciate the interest. I have been following along with the LTH thread with interest. But it's been my experience that because of the "matching resonance" theory you will gain in a small rpm range but not too useful for the rest of the range (though of course nobody is saying that. And if you bring that range up to match a higher rpm......that's where my interest lies).

I do believe that ITB's are the answer to above 200 whp for these cars. But I have to get the MSnS down first so that I can take advantage of the ITB's.

This year was just a year to see how far I could take the car while still maintaining the "daily driver" concept. I wanted to do things that would be in the range of the "average" driver (finacially as well as the DD concept). I still have a few more events to hit before the season is over, so hopefully I will lower the 1/4 a bit more. That'll give me the winter to come up with some "different" stuff .

MB

Captain Caveman

96 RS Turbo 11.414 @ 119.62 MSNS, Crower 2 NA cams, BW366, 10.5 comp, UDP, 60mm TB, W/A intercooler, 3.55 tranny 567.9whp 430tq
97 RS NA 13.188 @ 103.87 MSnS powered 12.5 comp, Crower 3's and 219.4whp with 175tq
98 RS DD 12.5 comp on stock ECU, LTH, Crower 2's, Koni, GC, Hypercoil, DG hats
99 OZ 5sp Stocker 15.856 @ 85.97
99 GS stocker auto 17.7@77mph!

wiki home page:http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=bullettdsm

  

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