Welcome to the 2GNT Forum!
Home Site Background Info & Specs Mods & Tech Info CAPS Part Reviews Donate 2GNT Stickers
Search Printer-friendly copy 0 Users in Chat
Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine Real Racing topic #2144
View in linear mode

Subject: "short shifting" Previous topic | Next topic
redfoxNov-27-02 10:28 PM
Member since Nov 18th 2002
7 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2144, "short shifting"




          

What's the torque curve for our cars? I had it explained to me recently by a mechanic who's into drag racing that shifting when you hit max torque gets you quicker times.

Fox

- '97 Red Eclipse GS -
The car that everyone thinks is real cool until they find out it has a Neon motor in it. Here's to Neons with Mitsu body kits!

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Replies to this topic

fabry827Dec-13-02 01:50 PM
Member since Apr 14th 2002
194 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2145, "RE: short shifting"
In response to Reply # 0


          

The stock torque peak is at 4800 rpms. I believe the way that you are thinking of is by shifting so that you end up on the torque peak immediately after the shift. By my experiences in my eclipse, shifting at 6k seemed as fast, maybe even faster than 7k. Just my thoughts.

justin
**1998 RS w/ 5 spd **FOR SALE**
http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/vdetail.jtmpl?car_id=117972723&dealer_id=&make=MIT&distance=25
&max_price=&model=ECLIP&advcd_on=n&end_year=2003&min_price=&certified=n&address
=43947&search_type=used&advanced=n

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

ModeratorVX100Dec-14-02 12:46 AM
Donating 2GNT member
2831 posts,
Click to send email to this author Click to send private message to this author Click to view this author's profile Click to add this author to your buddy list
#2146, "RE: short shifting"
In response to Reply # 0




          

No, your mechanic is wrong. Torque gets you off the line, HP is what makes your car go fast in the 1/4 mile. (Well, it's not THAT simple, but it will do for the discussion.)

If I shifted at our stock torque peak (4800 rpms) I'd run 17 sec 1/4 miles.

Knowing when to shift depends on your engine's red line, what your HORSEPOWER curve looks like, and how your gear ratios relate to each other.

It can be somewhat complex. But basically, you shift when you would get more horsepower TO THE GROUND (taking gear ratios into consideration) in the next higher gear than in the current gear you are in, OR when you hit red line, whichever comes first.

Maybe for an old V8 that made all its power at 2500 rpms and dies out at 3500 rpms, it would be ok to shift at the torque peak, but not us!

For us, it's easy. Bone stock, I'd shift at 6500-6700 in 1st, redline in 2nd gear (because 3rd gear is is a bit tall compared to 2nd gear). Once you have even any light mods (CAI and muffler), shift at redline. The car will make enough top end HP to make it worth it.

"Tutto fa brodo."

Todd Scungio
98 RS
15.173 @ 90.70 MPH

And also a 2011 Ralliart

  

Report This Post to Admin Printer-friendly copy | Reply | Reply with quote | Top

Top 2GNT Technical Performance/Engine Real Racing topic #2144 Previous topic | Next topic
Powered by DCForum+ Version 2.2
Copyright 1997-2005 DCScripts.com, Copyright 2005-2026 2gnt.com
Generated in 0.025 seconds, executing 20 queries.