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HeDogMay-29-05 02:33 PM
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#11162, "Rockford Crimp Ring Question"




          

I'm updating my power distribution from my battery & I picked up a pair of RF 4 gauge crimp rings(model RP6164). When I saw that they were crimp rings I thought that they were split where the wire goes into the ring so all I would have to do is "crimp" the thing. Well these things don't have the split, and are too thick to actually crimp. So what do I do, solder the 4 gauge wire into the ring?

Here's picture of 'em.



Any help would be appreciated. thanks.



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RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, BumpinTalon, May-30-05 04:26 AM, #1
RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, Moderatorsd_eclipse, May-31-05 06:42 AM, #2
RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, a_miller_76, May-31-05 06:48 AM, #3
      RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, Pitchblack98, May-31-05 02:58 PM, #4
           RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, SILVERNT, May-31-05 06:25 PM, #5
                RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, AdministratorStar Turbo Talon, May-31-05 06:32 PM, #6
                     RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, a_miller_76, Jun-01-05 03:18 AM, #7
                          RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, SILVERNT, Jun-01-05 05:58 AM, #8
                               RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, a_miller_76, Jun-01-05 07:43 AM, #9
                                    RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, Ducking_Fumbass, Jun-01-05 11:14 AM, #10
                                         RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question, HeDog, Jun-04-05 08:44 AM, #11

BumpinTalonMay-30-05 04:26 AM
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#11166, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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you have to solder those ones... a total pain in the ass imo, I had those terminals in my last system and I am never messing with them again.


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Moderatorsd_eclipseMay-31-05 06:42 AM
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#11172, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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They make tools to crimp large gauge connectors like those but they tend to cost an arm and a leg.

I'd just ditch em and get the ones with the hex screw in the middle. Similar to these(if the pic works)

  

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a_miller_76May-31-05 06:48 AM
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#11173, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Originally posted by sd_eclipse
They make tools to crimp large gauge connectors like those but they tend to cost an arm and a leg. I'd just ditch em and get the ones with the hex screw in the middle. Similar to these(if the pic works)


Agreed. Don't try to solder bare wire to a solid copper connector.

  

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Pitchblack98May-31-05 02:58 PM
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#11174, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Heres an easy fix for you... Strip the wire where it goes all the way into the connector. Put it down on some concrete and hammer it with a normal nail hammer until its completly flat. Then flip it over and hammer on the other side. Thats how Ive always done mine and I have never had a problem with them.

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SILVERNTMay-31-05 06:25 PM
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#11175, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Originally posted by Pitchblack98
Heres an easy fix for you... Strip the wire where it goes all the way into the connector. Put it down on some concrete and hammer it with a normal nail hammer until its completly flat. Then flip it over and hammer on the other side. Thats how Ive always done mine and I have never had a problem with them.


or use a bench-vise, thats what i did for my battery relo

  

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AdministratorStar Turbo TalonMay-31-05 06:32 PM
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#11176, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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soldering those things is easy. Miller i have no idea why you dont like solding wire to copper it works easy.

Put the ring terminal in a vise upside down so it id like a cup. hea the terminal with a propane torch or a "Blazer" (alum blazing torch). when it reaches the right temp start adding solder to the wire cup and fill it 3/4 of the way. Next take your stripped wire and carefully put it into the terminal. withthe heat still on the terminal take the solder and tin any stripped wire that is exposed. Let cool and heat shrink.


Or be a choad and smash it. the crimper for these terminals is only 30.00 at ace hardware. Look by the welding equipment.

Terry

  

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a_miller_76Jun-01-05 03:18 AM
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#11177, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
soldering those things is easy. Miller i have no idea why you dont like solding wire to copper it works easy. Put the ring terminal in a vise upside down so it id like a cup. hea the terminal with a propane torch or a "Blazer" (alum blazing torch). when it reaches the right temp start adding solder to the wire cup and fill it 3/4 of the way. Next take your stripped wire and carefully put it into the terminal. withthe heat still on the terminal take the solder and tin any stripped wire that is exposed. Let cool and heat shrink. Or be a choad and smash it. the crimper for these terminals is only 30.00 at ace hardware. Look by the welding equipment. Terry




Because those:

1. Look better.
2. Work just as well.
3. Take 2 minutes to put on.

  

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SILVERNTJun-01-05 05:58 AM
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#11178, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Originally posted by a_miller_76
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon soldering those things is easy. Miller i have no idea why you dont like solding wire to copper it works easy. Put the ring terminal in a vise upside down so it id like a cup. hea the terminal with a propane torch or a "Blazer" (alum blazing torch). when it reaches the right temp start adding solder to the wire cup and fill it 3/4 of the way. Next take your stripped wire and carefully put it into the terminal. withthe heat still on the terminal take the solder and tin any stripped wire that is exposed. Let cool and heat shrink. Or be a choad and smash it. the crimper for these terminals is only 30.00 at ace hardware. Look by the welding equipment. Terry
Because those: 1. Look better. 2. Work just as well. 3. Take 2 minutes to put on.


youre also paying $10-15 each compared to $1

  

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#11179, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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If you don't care what it looks like then use the $1 crimp connectors. I personally hate them and would rather buy the expensive ones. Just a personal opinion.

  

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Ducking_FumbassJun-01-05 11:14 AM
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#11180, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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Reminds me of the time I wired my sub with solder and a blowtorch...

  

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HeDogJun-04-05 08:44 AM
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#11200, "RE: Rockford Crimp Ring Question"
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I ended up using a dremel cutting wheel. I cut the connector such that it became a crimpable connector. I may solder it later since it's one of the power cables for the car.

Thanks for the help guys.



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