LAST EDITED ON 06-Jul-01 AT 07:22 PM (PST)

Don't give up, man, I think you bring some good points to the table and discussion that isn't based in emotions or name-calling seems productive to me. It's not that I totally agree with you, it's just that I want to encourage you to argue your point, if you like. I think some people had a knee-jerk "you're wrong and stupid" response, just because so many other obviously "uneducated" people have asked that same question, and many vets here have had to give out our "company answer."

I think after Raizin has now brought to the table a potentially viable alternative in his contemporary motor-swapping world , we can now entertain this discussion with more of an open mind (and possibly not limit anything to the 4g63).

My take on your motor-swapping idea is this: If you can do the swap at a really low cost and QUALITY job, it might be worth entertaining. However, do it by excluding all of the shortcomings the stock 4g63 has.

(Note: After driving my brother's 97 GS-T, I can easily now understand why the clutches/ trannies always fail/break, the clutch feel is garbage. Even on a seemingly crankwalk-free 4g63, both 4g63's I've driven feel somewhat spongy although they grab farily well. Drive one guys, there just seems to be less transmission "control." I know in our own 420a's there is a great disparity in the quality of our trannies/clutches -and probably why many 4g owners think our cars "stink"- , we should all be glad we weren't outfitted with whatever they have.)

Back to excluding the GS-T "shit parts", get either the Cyclone engine or a 1g engine, and use a good turbo, aftermarket clutch, and pray you find a tranny that's reliable.

The one REAL advantage to me though, and the only worthwhile reason for entertaining this whole motor swap notion, IS the 4g63 ecu (besides the internals "potentially" supporting more HP). With that ECu, you can both read boost and spport injectors that are MUCH bigger than can we (w/o big-time ecu help...not a small-scale S-AFC). You can now use injectors as large as 720's or so, and as we all know, fuel is the key to power.

Besides those two advantanges(ecu and stock HP advantage), I can't really see why one would be so inclined to go by way of a motor swap. There's just so much more labor involved, and I don't think you'd be pleased with the end result.


Jason
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