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Warmage12Oct-15-08 04:57 PM
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#31503, "How's it handle?"
Oct-15-08 05:05 PM by Warmage12



          

This thread could go a bazzilion (is that a real number?) ways. I know we get caught up in making hp and going faster. Lately our cars suspension and how they handle has had me wondering. We have a really wide car and is pretty low slung as far as center of gravity. (COMPARE IT TO A 350Z OR A HONDA) I know our weight balance is a lowsy 60f-40r or 70f-30r. So we do get understeer. I've never seen an eclipse carving corners on video or in person. I also havn't pushed mine hard enough to know. So i was just wondering what kind of experiences other people have had with them.

Here's some bits of what i know and things i'm more than 50% sure on. Feel free to politely correct.

I believe our supension is compiled of mitsubishi's favorite McPherson strut design up front and a independent multi link in the rear. I have a general idea how a McpPherson works and understand it can be a blessing or a curse depending on how its utilized. I've heard a good bit about when an eclipse is lowered it experienses "bump steer" under hard cornering from the upper control arm hitting the top of the strut assembly. I'd think how a McPherson strut exponetially stiffens, using all the components and not just the actual shock, as weight is put on it would make for good steering response because the car wouldn't "drop its shoulder" much before that strut tightened up grabing hard traction making skidding less frequent. I do know that "plowing" because of FWD and weight distibution is gona be near impossible to get rid of...

In my experience around sharp turns; i've found that "ripping" the steering wheel while simultaneously giving a bit more gas tends to countereffect the cars "want" to "plow." By suddenly "powering over."

By "ripping" i mean jerking hard on the steering wheel suddenly and a bit farther than neccesary. After the "ripping" maneuver, you carry on and straighten up around the rest of the turn like normal. It does not skid its just a hard jerk seems to get it going right. I have no power steering though and that may be why i can do that. The turns i have to work with are only short and only have enough length to them to require one "rip", so i don't know how it works on longer turns but i believe it wouldn't be neccesart.

I'm unable to push my car past 45-55mph (on 25mph posted turns) because of safety. note: the legal speed is 45 in those areas. Its just hazarded at 25mph.

I've heard a little from autocrossers, who say its too heavy to be competitive. From what i've seen autox courses are small and tight and are better suited for go-karts.

I'd like oppinion, theory, solutions, truth, experiences. All of it. Good supension parts and upgrades are also what i'm looking for.

Thanks.

This is a general discussion... so... mods, i don't mind a little off topicness. But please feel free to "lay-to-waste" person(s) who start bashing.

I love my car...
I love Horsepower...
I love reliability...
So why do i own a DSM again?

  

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How's it handle? [View all] , Warmage12, Oct-15-08 04:57 PM
  RE: How's it handle?, Moderatorteklein, Oct-16-08 02:29 AM, #1
RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Oct-16-08 03:16 AM, #2
RE: How's it handle?, djtrickee, Oct-16-08 05:22 AM, #3
RE: How's it handle?, 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-16-08 11:07 AM, #4
RE: How's it handle?, RoninEclipse2G, Dec-26-08 01:01 PM, #21
RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-16-08 01:46 PM, #5
      RE: How's it handle?, Moderatorteklein, Oct-16-08 02:13 PM, #6
      RE: How's it handle?, 95eclipse420A, Oct-16-08 02:17 PM, #7
           RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-16-08 02:54 PM, #8
                RE: How's it handle?, Moderatorteklein, Oct-16-08 03:58 PM, #9
                RE: How's it handle?, 420agreenvilleSC, Oct-16-08 05:18 PM, #10
                RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Oct-16-08 09:40 PM, #11
                     RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-17-08 02:58 AM, #12
                          RE: How's it handle?, Slo2g, Oct-17-08 03:06 AM, #13
                          RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Oct-17-08 04:42 AM, #14
                               RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-17-08 07:36 AM, #15
                                    RE: How's it handle?, Moderatorteklein, Oct-17-08 08:48 AM, #16
                                         RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-17-08 04:16 PM, #17
                                              RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Oct-17-08 04:38 PM, #18
                                                   RE: How's it handle?, Warmage12, Oct-17-08 05:16 PM, #19
                                                        RE: How's it handle?, mojorob, Dec-26-08 06:12 AM, #20
                                                             RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Dec-27-08 11:34 AM, #22
                                                             RE: How's it handle?, 2GNT_95eclipse, Dec-27-08 12:11 PM, #23
                                                                  RE: How's it handle?, 420agreenvilleSC, Dec-27-08 05:48 PM, #24
                                                                       RE: How's it handle?, scorpo86, Feb-17-09 08:35 PM, #25
                                                                            RE: How's it handle?, freelancefool, Feb-17-09 10:07 PM, #26
                                                                                 RE: How's it handle?, Guinnesskhan, Feb-20-09 08:03 PM, #27

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