yea they really really really really really suck. REALLY. just wanted to vent cause i used the search and some kid said they worked with his coilovers but what the hell was he thinking. this has to be the worst for lowered cars my blown struts felt better then this. all i can say is that these things are going off and back to napa going with tien so if anyone thinks about buying these stay away and dont even think it has anything to do with camber cause i have my ingalls camber kit on and i just got it aligned wheels are balanced errrr piss me off spent 3 hours changing the crap