>Each particualar car has different camber and alignment
>specs. "perfect" camber doesnt mean the tire contact patch
>is even with the road. Most cars, esp multi-link independant
>suspensions need some negative camber for proper handling.
>Having 0 degree camber means the tire is completely flat
>against the ground. Most cars dont want 0 degrees, esp in
>the rear of the car. You would loose controll around a heavy
>turn, with speed, pretty quick. Our stock camber specs call
>for around -1.5 degree average for the rear tires. For the
>fronts, anywhere from +.5 to .5 degree is ok. Why on earth
>do you want 19" wheels anyway?? The ride will suck, driving
>will suck, and bumps will suck. IMO, it will look like shit.
>The wheel will just look way to big for the body of the car.
>I laugh everytime I see a car like that. The wheel diameter
>itself has nothing to do with camber anyway, its the amount
>of suspension drop you do. The lower you go, the more
>negative camber that results. I have the Ingalls front
>camber kit, which can correct for +3 full degrees of camber.
>That should be enough for a completly slammed car. I am
>dropped about 2" in the front, I needed about +1.25 degrees
>for factory spec camber. By the way, if you need more camber
>correction than that, you will need to modify the front
>wheel well where the upper controll arm rides into. The
>control arm will hit the wheel well if you bring it out any
>more to correct more than about +1.5 degree with the ingalls
>kit. A 16" or 17" wheel is perfect for our cars IMO, and a
>2" drop sets that off nicely, while still being very
>streetable, and very good handling.

which was exactly my point. with far less words but thank you for taking up my battle

>bro, thats nice, make your living selling tires oor
>installin em, thats all you, i could care less what it says
>on paper, and i could care less what your "trained mechanics
>tell you"
>
>you might "know what your saying" but theres a difference
>between what your saying and what im saying, your saying
>what is heard.... or what is theroized
>
>im speaking from DIRECT HANDS ON experience, so whos
>information will be more factual???................
>
>and for the record, ive had several suspensions systems,
>including Tanabe Sustecs Full coilovers, springs, camber
>kits, swaybars, slip on coil-overs and air, which im
>currently running air now, 16s,17s,18s,19s inch rims,ive had
>it all so yes, in particular, i know the dsm suspension
>quite well wouldnt ya think, ive been been in this game
>since i was 16, so yes i do have hands on knowledge under my
>belt, not hearsay......
>
>btw, if your so trained in this and that, you should be able
>to tell when a car is out of camber by eye if its more than
>5 degrees off, which most are

you can tell when a car is far out of camber yes but to tell correct camber is not possible. and no a car is hardly ever 5 degrees out of camber. most cars are only adjustable from 1.5 to a negative value which is about equal. maybe you mean 0.5 degrees

>tire size is a 225 on the front and a 265 on the rear, you
>forgot, im widebody
>
>the width of the rear rim is 9 while the front is a 8
>35 series tires fyi

ok a stock corvette with 18's runs something like 245 45 18 on the front and 265 45 18 on the rear. not exactly sure since i didn't look it up. plus sizing to a 19 would make the rear 275 35 19. but i'm sure you could fit wider wheels in the back of a vette. the store i work for sponsors a local racer. runs a blue vette in auto cross comps. always has me install heat treated hoosiers from tire rack on his 18x12 fikse's. so does one of his friends with a TT rx-7 with the same setup also autox's.

newer vette's are a bix! they have those radio air pressure sensors by the valve stem. such a pain in the ass tryin to get a good grip on these stiff as hell tires without sliding the prybar into the sensor

which brings me to my second point. i wasn't trained how to sell tires. i install and balance tires. i install shocks/struts and diagnose various other problems. that's what my training was on.

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thanks beefgg for the sig