hey bud, my bad for the "db" line... at first glance i didn't see the LOL tacked on the back of that STFU. i can be the "gets a little too passionate in confrontational situations" guy sometimes. anyway, i finally found what i needed here:http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=130749&mode=fullthanks for the info gents!