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TeamMetalJimAug-27-03 10:04 PM
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This topic is interesting, so I decided to look into it a little. I found an interesting site that explains how rod length affects piston acceleration. http://e30m3performance.com/tech_articles/engine-tech/rod-ratio/index.htm Threre's even a spreadsheet you can download to calculate the piston acceleration for different rod lengths and strokes.

The bad news is that destroking a 2.4L motor with a 2.0L crank simply does NOT change the acceleration by that much. First of all, the rod would be .7" longer. I suppose you could squeeze another .3" if you really tried, so I ran the simulations with a 1" longer rod. What I came up with is that the pistons accelerate just as fast in a 2.0 motor at 8000 RPM as they do in the 2.4L hybrid motor at 8140 RPM. Blackdog is running a built 2.0L block to 9500 RPM. That's pretty high. Even still - the pistons in a 2.4L hybrid motor would have the same piston acceleration at 9670 RPM.

Essentially - you can't run any hybrid destroked 2.4 block up to 12000 RPM...unless you can rev a similarly prepped(bottom end wise) 2.0L to 11800 RPM. Pistons/Rods can only accelerate so fast before they become terminal and fly off. It's a nice thought and all, but I think 12,000 RPM is just way off. Also, this "2.4L hybrid motor" has a 2.0L displacement - 2.0L stroke with a 2.4L bore...which is the same as the 2.0L bore. I'd trade off a couple hundred rpm for an additional .4L any day.


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Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.. [View all] , WheatKing, Jul-08-03 03:55 AM
  RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Joshua97478, Jul-08-03 05:42 AM, #1
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., WheatKing, Jul-08-03 06:24 AM, #2
      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., theallpowerfulme, Jul-08-03 07:58 AM, #3
           RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., WheatKing, Jul-08-03 08:05 AM, #4
                RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Blmet, Jul-09-03 07:35 AM, #5
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., WheatKing, Jul-09-03 08:09 AM, #6
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Teamner947, Jul-11-03 09:48 AM, #7
                          RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Blmet, Jul-11-03 10:42 PM, #8
                               RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., a_miller_76, Jul-12-03 05:27 AM, #9
                                    RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Joshua97478, Jul-12-03 07:01 AM, #10
                                         RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Joshua97478, Jul-16-03 09:08 AM, #11
                                              RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., wakeboard99, Jul-16-03 11:42 AM, #12
                                                   RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Joshua97478, Jul-16-03 01:53 PM, #13
                                                        RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., MotoFool, Jul-27-03 11:03 AM, #14
                                                             RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., el2oCz, Jul-27-03 09:51 PM, #15
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., WheatKing, Jul-28-03 03:59 AM, #16
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., 96eclipse2nr, Jul-30-03 12:48 PM, #17
      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., BuckNutty, Aug-06-03 05:51 PM, #18
      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Aug-07-03 04:18 AM, #19
      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Teametx, Aug-21-03 05:33 AM, #20
           RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., theallpowerfulme, Aug-27-03 04:43 PM, #21
                RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., 2hot97GS, Aug-27-03 05:18 PM, #22
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., TeamMetalJim, Aug-27-03 10:04 PM #23
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., MotoFool, Aug-29-03 01:33 AM, #24
RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-01-03 05:58 PM, #25
      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-01-03 07:52 PM, #26
           RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-01-03 08:39 PM, #27
                RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-01-03 09:59 PM, #28
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-02-03 04:43 AM, #29
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Teamner947, Sep-02-03 04:59 AM, #30
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-02-03 08:39 AM, #31
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-02-03 11:35 AM, #32
                          RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-02-03 02:22 PM, #33
                               RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., vtcomp, Sep-03-03 03:04 AM, #34
                                    RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-03-03 05:29 AM, #36
                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., vtcomp, Sep-03-03 03:15 AM, #35
                          RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., vtcomp, Sep-04-03 02:49 AM, #37
                               RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-04-03 03:09 AM, #38
                                    RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., tacoman123, Sep-07-03 04:21 PM, #39
                                         RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-07-03 05:33 PM, #40
                                              RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-07-03 08:32 PM, #41
                                                   RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-08-03 04:17 AM, #42
                                                        RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-08-03 12:20 PM, #43
                                                             RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-08-03 04:15 PM, #44
                                                                  RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-09-03 12:26 PM, #45
                                                                       RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-09-03 09:18 PM, #46
                                                                       RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., BuckNutty, Sep-10-03 01:56 AM, #47
                                                                       RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Jay_98GSX, Sep-10-03 07:42 AM, #48
                                                                            RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., vtcomp, Sep-10-03 01:38 PM, #49
                                                                                 RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., turbo8u, Sep-10-03 03:06 PM, #50
                                                                                      RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-10-03 03:26 PM, #51
                                                                                           RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-10-03 04:40 PM, #52
                                                                                                RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-10-03 06:18 PM, #53
                                                                                                     RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-11-03 02:42 AM, #54
                                                                                                          RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-11-03 06:08 AM, #55
                                                                                                               RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Whittey, Sep-11-03 09:39 AM, #56
                                                                                                                    RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., The1Bill, Sep-11-03 10:39 AM, #57
                                                                                                                         RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., MotoFool, Sep-11-03 08:13 PM, #58
                                                                                                                         RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Matt_95tgs, Sep-12-03 09:09 AM, #59
                                                                                                                              RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Shockeclipse, Sep-19-03 10:50 PM, #60
                                                                                                                                   RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., 420AYE, Oct-03-03 06:39 AM, #61
                                                                                                                                        RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., python6586, Nov-28-03 12:36 PM, #62
                                                                                                                                             RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., Joshua97478, Dec-01-03 11:31 AM, #63
                                                                                                                                             RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., python6586, Dec-01-03 12:06 PM, #64
                                                                                                                                             RE: Long rod engine.. aka RPM screamer.., ModeratorCorbin, Dec-02-03 05:38 AM, #65

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