Not looking for compition 12's... just looking for an all around good 12 sub... I have the Kenwood excelon 8xx deck... and I have a jl 500/4 amp... just got some custon enclosures for the evo so i keep teh trunk and they are 1 cu ft. each.... Had JL w7 before but they were comp speaker... What Idea's can you peeps help me out with.. thanks