#86847, "Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" Jun-13-05 01:26 PM by KTECLIPSE
Hello everyone,
During my last oil change, I decided it would be a good idea to take out the HRC supplied K&N oil filter, clean it, and re-oil it. When I took the filter off, I noticed one section of the filter was caved in and another section was rubbing on the connector for the radiator fan which actually put a hole in the cotton filter element. Here's some pictures of it's original location and the damaged filter (it lasted for two years).
Original Location:
Filter Crushed Against Intercooler Pipe (Result of Filter being too big):
Hole in Filter due to rubbing against the radiator fan connector:
After seeing the hole, I decided to search on 2gnt for filter options. Many of the results returned were people looking for a replacement filter but it seemed as no one ever posted a filter that fit better than the original. Here are the specs of the K&N filter that I bought. It is much smallar when compared to the original:
Original Filter: Straight Filter Height: 4" Top and Bottom Diameter: 5.75 Flange Inlet: 2.5" Flange Type: Offset Chrome Top
My Replacement (Much Smaller, Different Design) Tappered Cone Filter Model#: RC-9700 Height: 3.75" Bottom Diameter: 5.188" Top Diameter: 3.5" Flange Inlet: 2.5" Flange Type: Offset .594" Chrome Top
Notice that the replacement filter's flange is offset (meaning the hole where it mounts to the intake pipe is not directly in the center of the bottom of the filter) - it is to the right of center by a half inch. This works nicely as you can drill a hole (1/2" for breather line - depends on your hose barb as I replaced my 90 degree elbow from HRC with a straight hose barb from home depot to remove stress (pulling) on the filter - the stock HRC hose is also 1/2") into the bottom of the filter (very easy - see pictures - takes 5 minutes but make sure you vacuum the inside of the filter to remove the rubber pieces) to allow for the line for the valve cover breather.
This filter fits much better. It does not hit the radiator shroud, radiator fan electrical connector, or the hood prop. I purchased this filter from www.sparkplugs.com for $28.00 and it was delivered in about a week (they are located in California and I am in New Jersey). For $30 bucks, I think it is a good upgrade. Below are some pictures of how it fits:
Model Number:
Clearance of Hood Prop:
Clearance of Radiator Shroud and Fan Electrial Connection:
Overall shot (doesn't hit the headlight cover, can see valve cover breather line with straight barb instead of the HRC 90 degree barb):
Engine Compartment View:
I hope this post helps someone looking for a similar solution. I made many trips to the K&N website and spent many hours trying to decide on a filter that would fit the best as I made paper models to visualize how it would fit before buying it.
#86949, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 0
Wow, that's sweet. If I had a HAHN kit I'd be all about that mod
I was wondering if it would be detrimental to performance if I ran an intake pipe to the front bumper of my car, where an FMIC would normally go.
Would that cause the intake pipe to bee too long, causing lag? I don't think it would, but input from more experienced members would definitely be appreciated
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#86950, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 1 Jun-15-05 08:18 PM by WickedESi
You don't need to worry about lag. The concern is pressure drop (which can in turn cause lag and heat). If you can do it without many tight turns the cooler air is only beneficial. Then your final intake charge will be the same number of degrees cooler as the air switching from near the exhaust manifold to ambient (can be quite significant!). Corky Bell recommends getting the air outside the engine bay. I'm guessing you have a smic, but I'm running my intake where the Hahn kits place their smic, one 30* bend from my turbo.
Joel Baldridge, ASE Certified Master Technician, Audi Certified Expert Technician
#86951, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 2 Jun-15-05 08:47 PM by BRU_ce
Yeah, I have a 1G SMIC. The only problem I can think of, besides keeping the bends to a minimum, is that when the engine lurches forward that the piping may collide with the various shit under the hood.
I guess I could cure that with a small flex section.
Another idea I just thought up would be to do a hood scoop by cutting off a small portion of the hump, like some of the aftermarket hoods do it. I could line the cut area with rubber liner to make it look nice, then mount the piping from the inlet of the turbo straight up to the scoop, and enclose the filter in such a way that the heat from below is blocked (by heat wrap) and receives all the fresh air as you drive. I would have to bracket the piping so that when I close my hood I don't knock it out of place. I could seal the filter to the scoop with a simple rubber countour piece that would flatten as the hood drops on it. Again, a small flex section would probably be required so that the pipe doesn't move around as the engine lurches.
edit: hmm... the curved design of the hump may cause turbulence in the air as it hits the curved section and is pushed around by new incoming air at high speeds. Any ideas to cure that?
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#86955, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 3
Originally posted by BRU_ce Another idea I just thought up would be to do a hood scoop by cutting off a small portion of the hump, like some of the aftermarket hoods do it. I could line the cut area with rubber liner to make it look nice, then mount the piping from the inlet of the turbo straight up to the scoop, and enclose the filter in such a way that the heat from below is blocked (by heat wrap) and receives all the fresh air as you drive. I would have to bracket the piping so that when I close my hood I don't knock it out of place. I could seal the filter to the scoop with a simple rubber countour piece that would flatten as the hood drops on it.
#86956, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 4
I have a FMIC and I custom made a "cold air intake" pipe that snakes down just in front of the drivers side wheel. If you get under your car you'll see there's a lot of space there and it gets the intake out of the engine compartment and away from the heat of the turbo. All I had to do was move my horn. I'd take a pic to show everyone what I did, but my car is in a million pieces ... worked nice for the 1000 miles I had it running.
#86958, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 4 Jun-16-05 06:18 AM by pr0
I want to get rid of the shitty HRC breather, is that a custom nipple on the filter? or does it come with that?
#86959, "RE: Sick of your beat up HRC K&N filter? Check inside for a better K&N option (pictures inside)!" In response to Reply # 6 Jun-16-05 07:47 AM by BRU_ce
YES! Holy shit that is strange. That is almost EXACTLY what I was envisioning. You actually went much further than I would have by molding it to look all pretty
Unfortunately I am on a shoe string budget and can't afford to repaint my whole hood
Very nicely made though. Have you taken any before and after temperature readings? From what I've been reading at DSMTuners.com, reducing your intake temps can reduce your EGTs quite a bit.
