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Hult250RMay-28-04 08:21 AM
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#10746, "550 or 660 Injectors??"
May-28-04 08:22 AM by Hult250R



          

Ive been shopping around for Injectors, you know if you read my post about getting them chap. But should I get 550's or 660's
Ive got a small 16G, FMIC, Walbro 255, and I just got my SAFC yesterday. What injectors should I get, I see most people have 550's Jeff, I remember you posting that I should get 660's Whats the reasoning for each size? Why should I get one over another? TIA

Also, anyone know of a write up on how to wire up the SAFC in a 1G, all the ones ive found are for 2G's

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chrysler kidMay-28-04 08:22 AM
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#10747, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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660's 550's would max out before you want them too

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Hult250RMay-28-04 08:23 AM
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#10748, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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Originally posted by chrysler kid
660's 550's would max out before you want them too


Thats kinda what I was thinking. If i ever go to a bigger turbo Ill have to upgrade injectors again. The 660's will work fine with the small 16G though?

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470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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HybriDSMMay-28-04 08:26 AM
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#10749, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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May-28-04 08:28 AM by HybriDSM

          

Originally posted by Hult250R
Originally posted by chrysler kid 660's 550's would max out before you want them too
Thats kinda what I was thinking. If i ever go to a bigger turbo Ill have to upgrade injectors again. The 660's will work fine with the small 16G though?


With the AFC you can tune 660's down to run fine with any smaller turbo. Get the larger ones, so you don;t have to do what I did and buy other injectors to replace the older ones. In my case though, 660's were dropped for 850's. Go figure.

Also, there is a vfaq for the 1g SAFC install. Oh wait if it's an SAFCII install, then I don't know for sure if vfaq has it.

Edit: Just checked, nothing on vfaq for 1g's. Their link for the SAFCI is even down.



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#10750, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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Originally posted by HybriDSM
Originally posted by Hult250R
Originally posted by chrysler kid 660's 550's would max out before you want them too
Thats kinda what I was thinking. If i ever go to a bigger turbo Ill have to upgrade injectors again. The 660's will work fine with the small 16G though?
With the AFC you can tune 660's down to run fine with any smaller turbo. Get the larger ones, so you don;t have to do what I did and buy other injectors to replace the older ones. In my case though, 660's were dropped for 850's. Go figure. Also, there is a vfaq for the 1g SAFC install. Oh wait if it's an SAFCII install, then I don't know for sure if vfaq has it. Edit: Just checked, nothing on vfaq for 1g's. Their link for the SAFCI is even down.


Ya, I checked VFAQ and the SAFC install link is down.
Ive got the SAFC I if it matters

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'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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scottfreeman80May-28-04 09:10 AM
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#10751, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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660 of course. I have the evo 16G amongst other mods and i'm glad i went with the 660's. a place on ebay sells the 660's for like $300 or so. great injectors and i've had them on my car for 3 months without a single problem. the SAFC install write up is hard to find. try this email address. lucasenglish@yahoo.com his name is lucas and he has all the write-ups stored and is basically a guru when it comes to mods or tuning. helped me immensely when i was building my car. good luck! -Scott

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#10752, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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May-28-04 09:38 AM by FlyinEsi



          

If you plan on getting a bigger turbo, I would go with 660s. I'm running 550s with my Big 16G and my turbo is going to give way before those injectors do, it's been ran before at 22psi and ran fine, so my 20psi will not overdue the injectors. I plan on a bigger turbo someday, so I would go with some 660s or 780s (? I think then next biggest size I saw)



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Hult250RMay-28-04 10:08 AM
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#10753, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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I just ordered my 660's from FIC for $288 shipped, they got em on special till June 1, so get em quick!
But I still need a writeup on how to install the SAFC in a 1G, Anyone know what color wire goes to each pin on the ECU?

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I used to have a 420A...


'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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HybriDSMMay-28-04 10:12 AM
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#10754, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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Let me grab my let me grab my copy of the afc instuctions when I head back home this weekend. I'll see if I can track down the directions.



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Hult250RMay-28-04 10:28 AM
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#10755, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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May-28-04 10:32 AM by Hult250R



          

Originally posted by HybriDSM
Let me grab my let me grab my copy of the afc instuctions when I head back home this weekend. I'll see if I can track down the directions.


Ive got the afc instruction manual, It says what wires are what, I just cant figure out where they go on the ECU
heres a link to the wires of the AFC, i think its on like page 48 or 46:
http://www.apexi-usa.com/productdocumentation/electronics_safc_ins.pdf

and the ECU pins:
http://www.vfaq.com/mods/ecu-harness-1G.html

I just dont know where each wire from the AFC goes to what pin on the ECU

Does this Apexi wiring look right?
http://www.apexi-usa.com/productdocumentation/electronics_safc_wire.pdf
I dont know if I can trust it... Look at page 21 of the manual
Look at diagram M1-a, is it right??

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'92 TSi AWD

11.8 @ 119mph
470awhp 405 ft/lb torque
30psi on E85 w/ Borg Warner S256 Turbo

My DSM Registry: http://www.dsmregistry.com/166

  

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Module UnknownMay-28-04 11:52 AM
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#10756, "RE: 550 or 660 Injectors??"
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Originally posted by Hult250R
I just ordered my 660's from FIC for $288 shipped, they got em on special till June 1, so get em quick! But I still need a writeup on how to install the SAFC in a 1G, Anyone know what color wire goes to each pin on the ECU?


Did you have to call them to get that price? I see 650's listed for $320 on their site. Just curious since I'm about to order some 650's. I'll probably call anyway, but figured i'd ask here as well.

  

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