#4984, "Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" Sep-06-10 07:47 AM by itsaslow95
Alright guys, I'm about stumped. I can not get a signal on ts, or my tach. I tapped into my ecu for 8v signal, made sure it stayed when cranking and ran it to the sensor. Then, i ran the signal wire from ms to the connector and splice in a wore running to the ecu factory location. I made sure when doing this I did not get a ground out through the coaxial shielding. Then i ran the ground wire from ms to the connector.
What I've tried:
Jumping the ground to chassis ground. No change.
When I did a voltage drop, i found the sensor was consuming all but .5v. With this I assumed it was faulty, so I replaced it this afternoon with a duralast from Autozone and have the same outcomes. However, this new sensor does not consume all the available voltage in the circuit. this is assume is correct?
Any help is greatly appreciated!
Thanks, Jason
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#4985, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 0
Sounds like you have it wired up right. Have you done all the internal MS board mods for the 420a? And what about your MSQ.. are you sure all your settings are correct? Post it up here.
Also, if you are running MS piggyback, there is no need to touch the power and ground to the crank sensor. The stock ECU will take care of that. You just need to give the MS a tach signal from the blue/white wire.
#4988, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 3
I'm not running it as a piggy back, I'm only using it for my lights and all. The ms is completly controlling the engine. But I needed the lights signals and speedo etc so I left the stock ecu in for all that. And i will try that when I get home thanks.
Thanks, Jason
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-Jason
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#4990, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 3
Originally posted by adamzty You just need to give the MS a tach signal from the blue/white wire.
The blue/white wire is the crank sensor signal. The tach I believe is white.
Either way, make sure you have the ignition setting correct for your input. I don't know how it's done in TS, but in MT it's under ignition/tach settings and you select 420a. FYI, If you have a regular stimulator, it won't work anymore for RPMs under this setting.
Brian
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#4991, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 0
Alright, today we (my father and I) have torn into the ms unit, and the mega manual. looking at notes we used when building it. This is confusing us, I remember looking at the forums when building this and found one about the build so i followed it, does it make sense to any of yous?
for the tach input circuit we : Jumpered XG1 to XG2 Jumpered OptoIN to TACHSELECT Jumpered OptoOUT to VrIN Jumpered VrOUTinv to TSEL
this is really making no sense to us. When i think back about it, i believe somebody said it reduces noise in the circuit but in all honesty I do not recall.
I am skeptical to believe that this is the issue because before the ECU was flashed to the 420a/Neon setup i was getting a tach signal off the stim. so i feel like at one point in time it worked properly this way, but i'm not sure.
Also i am still not getting anything on my factory tach. possibly because i have no other sensors hooked up? The only sensors that are hooked into the factory ECU are the CKP and it IAC motor. in hopes of having a tach circuit to run my mini tach and shift light off of, and having the factory ECU control the IAC... but as i am typing this i don't think that this will work because i have no input of ECT to the factory ECU... but i will cross that bridge when i come to it.
i'm sorry it's a lot, and i appreciate anything anyone can do to help, THANK YOU TO THOSE WHO HAVE RESPONDED TO THIS POINT!!
as far as modding the stim, yes i did realize last night that it can not be done. but thank you for the heads up on it either way.
Hopefully I can fire this thing up sometime this week!
Thanks all, Jason
-Jason
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#4992, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 7
post a screen shot of your ignition settings, should be going hihg (if you have enternal igntghers), and spark output on pin d14? and should be set to :falling edge" and make sure its also set to 420a.and wasted spark.
#4993, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 8 Sep-06-10 08:17 PM by itsaslow95
Originally posted by streetlightning post a screen shot of your ignition settings, should be going hihg (if you have enternal igntghers), and spark output on pin d14? and should be set to :falling edge" and make sure its also set to 420a.and wasted spark. Your using tuner studio correct?
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Thanks! Jason
-Jason
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#4994, "RE: Can't get crank signal ms2/extra" In response to Reply # 9
A few more details about the ECU you built would be helpful... is it MS1 or MS2 (it looks like MS2 to me)? Are you using internal ignitors, or something else? I assume it's a v3.0 board since you mention the VR conditioning circuit, correct?
If you're using MS2, a few of the tach input settings are wrong. If you're using any sort of ignitors and not an ignition box, your spark output settings are definitely wrong.