HI everyone i am new to this group i just bought a 95 eclipse gs i have a Problem with it. The car won't start it turns over just won't start i rep;aced the coil pack and check it again but i checked the spark too and it seems like cyc 1&4 have a weak spark anyone ever have something like this happen before? Help .....Just help will be greatfully appreciated
#122248, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 1
Hahaha yeah what he said. Or if that does not work, a new starter should do it. But like he said, check the batt first, if thats the problem, hit yourself in the head a couple of times with a 2x4 for us jk
#122249, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 2
ya its funny that the car turns over as in the starter turns the car over and it just cranks and cranks just won't fire up ....... You get what i am saying STARTER IS FINE AND BATTERY IS FINE
#122250, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 3
Originally posted by sickboy ya its funny that the car turns over as in the starter turns the car over and it just cranks and cranks just won't fire up ....... You get what i am saying STARTER IS FINE AND BATTERY IS FINE
lol at the use of caps, anyways I had this problem less than a month ago, fuel pump was shot replaced it and its been (nearly) fine ever since. Occasionally refuses to start on the first try, but almost always on the 2nd. I figure I need to replace plugs and wires and all that fun stuff if i want it to start on the 1st try every time.
#122251, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 4
if it's cranking, it's not the battery. You may not be getting enough spark, since you said two cylinders aren't showing strength in their spark. If you are getting spark, check your timing belt.
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#122253, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 6
95's have a known problem with their ECUs. The telltale sign it's going bad is if it spontaneously shuts down, and after a few minutes or hours starts back up again like nothings wrong.
#122254, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 7
Mine only has the problem were when its been off for awhile it takes 3 cranks to start the thing. When the cars been on for awhile it turns on the first time. ECU related, but try replacing your fuel filter, I havent so that might be the problem. Nothing big to worry about really, just hope that the car dosent turn off in the middle of a train track when the train is underway and the car dosent turn on, then you would be in a world of s... yeah you get my point lol.
#122255, "RE: 95 eclipse won't Start.....Help" In response to Reply # 8 Feb-07-06 07:09 AM by ForceFed420a
Originally posted by JVStylez Mine only has the problem were when its been off for awhile it takes 3 cranks to start the thing. When the cars been on for awhile it turns on the first time. ECU related
The reason your car doesn't immediately fire on the first try when it's cold has nothing to do with the ECU, and it's not a problem. It's because the fuel has partially drained back to the tank after a day or two of sitting. Try priming the fuel pump a couple times when the car's been sitting. It'll fire immediately.
Now, onto the original poster's question. You have to have three things to make the engine run. Spark, fuel and compression.
You said you're getting spark although two cylinders are weak. I believe you said 1+4 are weak. This is a possibility with the wasted spark design as 1 and 4 are "partner" cylinders. The computer fires these as a pair, then fires 3+2 as a pair. I'm suspicious of this. The spark could be getting snuffed out on two cylinders, and it won't run on two cylinders. (Trust me) Check the connection to your coil pack You'll notice there are three wires. One is a ground and the other two are for the two banks of plugs. Is a wire in rough shape, disconnected? Also check around the EGR tube (underneath the throttle body, goes into the back of the intake manifold), since it gets very hot and could have melted some wires, a known problem. Check very carefully. Also, if you're getting spark it should rule out the ASD relay and cam/crank sensors.
Fuel? The easiest way to check this would be to crank it and then pull the spark plugs. Smell them. Gas? Good. No gas? Good-since you found your problem. No gas = fuel pump relay, fuel pump, fuel pump sock, fuel filter, fuel pressure regulator or kinked/blocked fuel line.
Timing--Have you pulled the inspection cover from the timing belt to make sure it's turning? Timing is the most difficult to check, since it involves more than just pulling spark plugs. Go here if you have both fuel and spark.
It could be a lot of things. If you have fuel and spark, you could also check compression since that's easy. I know it's not on a warm motor (which it's supposed to be done), but you could check for dead cylinders even if it's cold.
We need some more info to help focus on a particular part, hope this helps solve your problem.
Brian
Red 97 Eclipse GS (420a) MTX Custom Garrett T3 Turbo system Megasquirt w/52 lb/hr injectors & a Walbro 255 Kicker/Alpine Audio (3 amps, 2 subs) 90 Cav 2.2 TBI auto (winter) <- yeah, it's fast
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