#63169, "2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please"
Hello Shocked has contacted me and wants me to build him a monster 2.4
But would like to have some input from all you guys also.
Here is what i have came up with so far. (Motor Work will be done by VT Comp) 2.4 block pauter x beam rods CP Pistons compression ratio 8.5:1 coated by SwainTech ceramic and moly possible oil attraction coating on the bearings balanced and blue printed bottom end Melling Oil Pump mopar gaskets srt4 timing belt tensioner UR/AFX pulley Bob Stockum Windage Tray possible oil attraction coating on the engine bearings and pickup tube.
Cylinder head Port Work Done by NRGY Heads(Ex BlackDog Port Guy) Ferrea valves coated with ceramic atleast (jury is still open 1mm or std) full radius valve job(more surface area for valve to cool and also flows better) coatings on the chambers and exhaust ports (ceramic) crower springs and retainers PT lifters and rockers Crower or Crane Cams.. UR or Crane Cam gears
side notes the manifold and turbine housing will be ceramic coated
and also looking into jet hot coating the inside of the IC pipes. (ceramic)
this is going to be matched to a Hahn RaceCraft Turbo Kit s25g with FMIC recomended true 3" turbo back exhaust
my recomendation is for an AEM standalone equipped with a wideband
recomended drivetrain mods axles stage4 clutch with light flywheel LSD and diff pin fix solid motor mounts or atleast prothanes
Bill
You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.
If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good. If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast. If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.
#63172, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 0 Nov-16-03 01:13 AM by Shockeclipse
the names shockeclipse biotch...but no people I would really appreciate getting as much feedback and/or questions about this as i can.
"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war; our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very , very pissed off"
Originally posted by turbo8u every time i get in it and start it up im like 'oh...yea, you know why you just started right there bitch? because i built you...yea...you like it dont you, yea and you're about to take this boost like a bitch too arent you
#63182, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 2
Well it will all depend on what kind of feedback I get and if I decide to go with all that motofool has proposed. I am trying to get opinions to make my final decision. I would really like to hear what some of the guys on here with built and turbo'd motors think and what kind of gains people would think I would be able to get out of this kind of setup with proper tuning. So c'mon people lets here what you all think.
"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war; our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very , very pissed off"
Originally posted by turbo8u every time i get in it and start it up im like 'oh...yea, you know why you just started right there bitch? because i built you...yea...you like it dont you, yea and you're about to take this boost like a bitch too arent you
#63207, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 3
Personally, I would say go for it. Bill's never done me wrong and always been able to help me out. I don't car what that flamer has to say about his work. Besides, the block will be assembled by VT and the headwork done right here in Phoenix at NRGY heads. If Bill's taking care of the outsourcing of all the sub assy's, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Bill will make sure you get everything you need and everything he promised.
You don't think he's watching his ass especially close after all the heat he's taken lately? Besides, maybe if you send some business his way, he'll have a couple bones to spread around to the people he owes money too.
If I was in the market again - I'd call MotoFool again.
#63212, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 4
Originally posted by DR1665 Personally, I would say go for it. Bill's never done me wrong and always been able to help me out. I don't car what that flamer has to say about his work. Besides, the block will be assembled by VT and the headwork done right here in Phoenix at NRGY heads. If Bill's taking care of the outsourcing of all the sub assy's, I don't think you have anything to worry about. Bill will make sure you get everything you need and everything he promised. You don't think he's watching his ass especially close after all the heat he's taken lately? Besides, maybe if you send some business his way, he'll have a couple bones to spread around to the people he owes money too. If I was in the market again - I'd call MotoFool again.
thanks for the response but It's not a matter of whether or not I trust him....its a matter of what i should do as far as what is concerned with the setup..
"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war; our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very , very pissed off"
Originally posted by turbo8u every time i get in it and start it up im like 'oh...yea, you know why you just started right there bitch? because i built you...yea...you like it dont you, yea and you're about to take this boost like a bitch too arent you
#63220, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 6
Originally posted by mcgyvr god thats over 15K in parts/labor, not worth it IMO why not just build up the 2.0L. or do what brynden did with the 2.6L or just buy a faster car. IMO its not worth all the money and time, but yes when your done it will be one hell of a machine. Wish I had all that money to blow
Yeah who knows....I might even just give up the idea and just build up my bottom end and build a custom turbo.... who knows
"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war; our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very , very pissed off"
Originally posted by turbo8u every time i get in it and start it up im like 'oh...yea, you know why you just started right there bitch? because i built you...yea...you like it dont you, yea and you're about to take this boost like a bitch too arent you
#63252, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 7
I would hope this motor would be a bit faster then bryndens with the setup it will have..
the car would definatly be impressive as long as the tuner is god as the engine builders..
Bill
You can have it cheap, fast or good. Pick any two.
If you want it cheap and fast, it's not going to be good. If you want it cheap and good, it's not going to be fast. If you want it good and fast, it's not going to be cheap.
#63257, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 8
Originally posted by MotoFool I would hope this motor would be a bit faster then bryndens with the setup it will have.. the car would definatly be impressive as long as the tuner is god as the engine builders.. Bill
How fast would we be looking here anyway.
"We're the middle children of history, man. No purpose or great depression. Our great war is a spiritual war; our great depression is our lives. We've all been raised on television to believe that one day we'd all be millionaires and movie gods and rock stars. But we won't. And we're slowly learning that fact. And we're very , very pissed off"
Originally posted by turbo8u every time i get in it and start it up im like 'oh...yea, you know why you just started right there bitch? because i built you...yea...you like it dont you, yea and you're about to take this boost like a bitch too arent you
#63258, "RE: 2.4 Motor For Shocked Eclipse Thoughts please" In response to Reply # 8
Speaking from expierience (onebaddsm98 and I were one of the first to swap a 2.4 in a 2gnt) building a 2.0 will be a whole hell of alot easier. Just make shure you know what you are getting into and if all the head aches are worth the extra .4L of displacement. Having said that the motor spools a BB t3/t4 like nothing, but the car has never really been tuned or ran really well for that matter.