i have a 98 gs with a hrc stage 3. just upgraded my engine internals, pistons, rods, rings, boost regulator. have 3'' exhaust all the way back including the cat. i had bullfrog cams which i took out and am going to sell. i talked to the guys at HRC and they said they recommend stock cams unless your pushing 400 hp. besides these cams didn't do much for me anyways. also have adj cam gears. ok, now the questions. i know about engines, but when it comes to transmissions i know nothing. i've just never messed with them before. i want to know the best way to make the auto xmsn go quicker. i would like to know: -what a howell bottom end kit is, what it does. -what a final drive mod is, what it does -how a shift kit works. -has anyone used a trans brake, where did they find it. -what does a tq converter do. -what other parts will i need. my engine isn't completely back togeather yet but i'll have it done in about a week or two when i get my head back from getting borred out. so i have some down time to study up on my xmsn. thanks in advance for the help.
#546, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 0
what a howell bottom end kit is, what it does. not sure
-what a final drive mod is, what it does the final drive mod takes the final drive gears from the stratus transmission. They are "teethed" different than the final drive gears we have. Supposed to give you better acceleration. Why they wern't put in our cars to begin with I dunno.
-how a shift kit works. A shift kit "reprograms" your transmission for better shifts. They are quicker and snappier. This is good, cause you know how long it takes our tranny to shift gears.
-has anyone used a trans brake, where did they find it. no clue =)
-what does a tq converter do. a torque converter is more or less your clutch and clutch pedal. When you come to a stop with a 5sp you push the pedal in to disengage the clutch to your engine doesnt die. Well an automatic doesnt have a clutch we have a torque converter. Among other things but specifically to your question, it keeps the engine running by spinning at not just stopping when the engine stops. Check out howstuffworks.com. They have a really good explanation of it.
-what other parts will i need. a spare transmission=).
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#547, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 0
>-what a howell bottom end kit is, what it does. It's a kit that contains-rods,pistons,rings,oil pump and bearings. It's everything you would need to make the "bottom end" (it's more like the middle but it's under the head so we just call it the bottom end) stronger to handle higher boost levels or all-motor domonance.
>-what a final drive mod is, what it does Other guy got it.
>-how a shift kit works. same as above.
>-has anyone used a trans brake, where did they find it. These are for drag racers ( I haven't heard of imports/front drives doin it yet). Rear drives have the brakes locked at the line so they can rev the motor freely (without holding the brakes using the pedal) all they have to do is floor it and push the button when the light (tree) goes green.
>-what does a tq converter do. You know this now.
>-what other parts will i need. I dunno. I'm still waiting on the other people on this bored to upgrade their tranies. I'm rebuilding mine soon tho.
>my engine isn't completely back togeather yet but i'll have it >done in about a week or two when i get my head back from >getting borred out.
How u bore a cylinder head? Do you mean your gettin it machined? Or did you mean your getting you motor bored .020 over?
so i have some down time to study up on my >xmsn. thanks in advance for the help.
#548, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 2
Search, there is a nice list of parts and mods in posts below. Most of your questions are answered in them.
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#549, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 3
the shift kit not only will increase the quickness of your shifts, it is more preventive maintenance than anything.
when you drop your tranny pan, place more magnets in as well, the 1 that we have will look like a chia pet when you drop yours. it collects tiny metal fragments and keeps them from running through your tranny. you can get a moroso magnet kit from summit racing for a few dollars. i would install a drain plug too for easy fluid changes.
the kit will redo the seals and just prolong your tranny. its a must for the a604. check out the asog forums as well (www.asog.net), they have some good insight towards it too.
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#550, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 4 Apr-07-03 02:06 PM by amljbs
Look on the main site under FAQ there are answers to all of your questions regarding the AT tranny. It will also give you links to writeups on them and where you can buy the parts needed. With the turbo I would definately invest in a tranny cooler and a remote filter as well with anything you do next. Keep that tranny from melting . Remember heat is our trannys biggest issue.
#551, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 5
"the shift kit not only will increase the quickness of your shifts, it is more preventive maintenance than anything."
I beg to differ. Even though you have read that it will reduce heat and all that a snappier shift will hurt other parts than just your internal parts on the tranny. Every mechanic ive talked to, both regular mechanic and tranny specialist has said "you will break things if you get a shift kit." The things they're talking about are, final drive gears and the differential. Go outside in your car and between every shift let off the gas then slam it. Snappy huh? Well, do that long enough and shit starts to break. Im testament to the fact that a differential can't last that long. Ive blown mine up and now ive blown up a clutchpack. So just be careful getting a shift kit. I know they're good and what not but - like putting a lot of power to an AWD or MT, start powering up that engine and then pop that clutch without an upgraded drivetrain system. See ya drive train!
Get what I'm saying? There are things down the line from the tranny that will be effect. ie final drive gears, differential and maybe even axles.
Joseph
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#552, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 6
Honestly I think its all a matter of opinion on the shift kit. Ive heard some mechanics say that its going on ruin the tranny and others say its the best thing you can do. The fact to it is that you need to look at what hurts OUR trannys the most, not fords or chevys but the A604 tranny. From what I understand our tranny components are fairly strong but they build way too much heat and it destroys them. Also as we have discussed before the factory actually designs these trannys to slip the gears so that you dont feel the shift as much. Its not really that its shifting harder its just that it engages faster so in turn it feels harder. Think about it what would you rather have gear slip or direct engagement. I think the shift kit is misunderstood. Ive also found that after asking most the mechanics that say dont do it have done it on chevys and fords. If you look at the kits that are made for those cars they do something totally different than the one made for ours. Some here will agree with me others will probably say I dont know what Im talking about. It all just depends on who you talk to.
#553, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 7
Fuck all that. I got the shift kit done and I love it. If you wanna make the best of your final drive gears do the shift kit. If you wanna cool off your tranny, get a tranny cooler. The only way this is gonna mess up your tranny is because when your shit pulls so much harder your gonna take advantage of it and abuse it alot more. I've decided today that I need to not get on it as hard cause since I've done this I've been running the shit out of it. It's just fun now.
#556, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 8
You guys are missing the point, again. I didnt say internal parts like clutches and gears (other than final drive). There is more to a tranny than just the inner workings. Theres the final drive gears, what connects that to the diff, the axles and finally the wheels. I dont care about what goes on inside, i know a shift kit helps those out a lot. I'm talking about the transfer of energy after all that.
And I didnt mention anything about other trannys, i was talking about the A604, which is not very strong... Go to google.com and type in 41TE, that is the old name for our trannys. Chrysler fucked up so bad that they had to change the name of the tranny. Also, type in A604 and read up on the complaints and what not.
I dont think it's a matter of preference when you run the risk of blowing other things up or straining them. Dirty is right, get more power and you start abusing it. Youre unleashing more power from the tranny true, but are the final drive gears and your diff good enough to handle the abuse, or was it designed for the setting the engineers are Chrysler intended...
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#557, "RE: Ok, question for all ATX experts" In response to Reply # 9
I can't really get into the what can the tranny handle discussions cause I really don't know shit about them other than the few things that 've done to them, but if I break it I'll either rebuild with the premo shit or more than likely do the MTX swap. I wanted to do the swap to begin with but since I plan on boosting I wanted to see what it would be like with the ATX first.
It's not something I think we should stress over to much cause we all want our cars to be fast and we all wanna have fun so if something is weak and might break easier than we'd like, I'm not gonna sacrifice my fun to take care of something. I don't think so, and I know nobody is saying this, but if our tranny is a piece of shit, then it's a piece of shit that I'm gonna enjoy while I can.
. Remember heat is our trannys biggest issue.
