ive read some reviews about "fatmat" on here, seems like most have positive things to say. i found 100sq ft. on ebay for 100 bucks shipped. i emailed the guy because it didnt say how thick it is, he said its 45 mil. is that thick enough to where it would help at all? do you guys think i should buy it or not? TIA
#11806, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 0
Originally posted by LeakyMitsu ive read some reviews about "fatmat" on here, seems like most have positive things to say. i found 100sq ft. on ebay for 100 bucks shipped. i emailed the guy because it didnt say how thick it is, he said its 45 mil. is that thick enough to where it would help at all? do you guys think i should buy it or not? TIA
umm do you know how thick 45mm is? it's the small lines on your ruler.
#11808, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 2 Jan-04-06 12:08 PM by Blizare
Originally posted by freelancefool I believe that 45 mil when talking about plastic is .45 mm. When I was doing FEMA roofs in Florida, that's how it was rated.
that is not correct. I believe it is 4.5 mm thick.
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#11810, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 3
actually all of you are wrong. 1 mil is equal to .001 inch. 45 mil is equal to .045 inch. what im asking is is this thick enough to make any sort of difference. i dont know how this compares to like dynamat extreme, or even how thick this stuff needs to be to be effective.
#11812, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 4 Jan-05-06 02:39 PM by MCubed45
Originally posted by LeakyMitsu actually all of you are wrong. 1 mil is equal to .001 inch. 45 mil is equal to .045 inch. what im asking is is this thick enough to make any sort of difference. i dont know how this compares to like dynamat extreme, or even how thick this stuff needs to be to be effective.
umm no.
1 milimeter = 1/1000 meter (1 meter is slightly longer than a yard stick)
the abbreviation for milimter is "mm" not "mil". so unless this is some made up US unit i've never seen i think you're a little confused. the smallest unit of measure in the US system is the inch. there is no 1/1000 inch. i suppose you could call 1/1000 inch a mili-inch but mixing metric and US is just dumb.
even based on your flawed system of measurment .045 inches is ridiculously thin. look at your ruler. look how long an inch is. divide that in half. half an inch is .50 inches. now divide that measurement by ten. that tiny sliver is .050 inches. thinner than 1 milimeter.
learning basic units of measure is important for a lot of things...
on second thought 45mm might not be ridiculously thick for insulation purposes. 45mm is about 1.75 inches. kind've on the thick side but depending where you're planning on putting it, it might work alright.
here i found you a length conversion calculator for you to play with:
#11820, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 5
oh god! this is what i hate about this country, when will you people move to the normal system, the metric system. its like this. there are 10mm in a centimeter. hence the "milli" prefix, DUH! so 45 mm is 4.5 cm. ~2.5cm is an inch. so that makes 45mm to be close to like 2 and 3/4 inch thick or in NORMAL numbers 1.8 inch thick. also, how hard is it to go here http://www.fatmat.com/fatmat/bulk/100ft.htm and see for yourself that it says that its 45mm on the manufacturer site. damnit, what do you people do in school, eat paintchips? i need to move to japan
I just wish my car was as fast as it was loud. people tell me i should use my sub to push it, it might go faster.
#11821, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 6
i was asking what a particular item thickness was on ebay. the guy told me 45 mil. i didnt know what the fuck mil was (i assumed it wasnt the same as mm)so i looked it up...the link at the bottom is what i found. Since mil is what the guy told me, and all of these conversions are for mil i assumed this was correct. i highly doubt its 2 1/4" thick or whatever you said because they sold 45mil, 60 mil and 90 mil. Where in the hell would you fit 5 inches of material, or even 3 inches.since youre so eager to tell me to look at the fatmat website, why dont you try looking at some of the pictures. does that look like more than 2 inches thick of material on all of the photo cars door panels? i think not...i appreciate the help, just try not to be such a douchebag about it next time.
#11822, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 7
i was talkin to them above me and below you. hell knows what "mil" is. this kinda brings it back to my point of just using centimeters and such, make it all consistent, dont make up your own measurements. its silly. its hard to hell how thick it is, but it looks 90% the same as dynamat, it just doesnt have the lettering printed on the foil. its like brand name versus generic products. overall theyre both roofing tar with foil on one side and paper on the other. that foil costs more than anything anyways. how can so many people be on the automotive forums, being into cars this much and not knowing simple things like millimeters and inches and conversions between the two? its just sad. im not saying i know everything about everything, but at least i can tell a 25mm wrench from a 55mm, you know what i mean?
I just wish my car was as fast as it was loud. people tell me i should use my sub to push it, it might go faster.
#11823, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 6
Originally posted by VOTBLINDUB oh god! this is what i hate about this country, when will you people move to the normal system, the metric system. its like this. there are 10mm in a centimeter. hence the "milli" prefix, DUH! so 45 mm is 4.5 cm. ~2.5cm is an inch. so that makes 45mm to be close to like 2 and 3/4 inch thick or in NORMAL numbers 1.8 inch thick. also, how hard is it to go here http://www.fatmat.com/fatmat/bulk/100ft.htm and see for yourself that it says that its 45mm on the manufacturer site. damnit, what do you people do in school, eat paintchips? i need to move to japan
dude i'm with you. fuck this US system bullshit. the metric system is so much easier to use and just makes fucking sense. the only reason the US system is still around is because americans are too fucking stupid to learn anything else. the majority of educated people in other countries speak at least 2 languages. one of which is english. why? because americans are too fucking stupid to learn another language and insist that everyone else learn their ass-backwards language and ass-backwards measuring system.
/end rant
to the OP please please PLEASE get a ruler and learn the basic units of measurement. these are fundamentals necessary for communicating ideas and measurments with other people and ARE important for everyday life.
#11824, "RE: 45 mil fatmat?" In response to Reply # 9
Originally posted by MCubed45
Originally posted by VOTBLINDUB oh god! this is what i hate about this country, when will you people move to the normal system, the metric system. its like this. there are 10mm in a centimeter. hence the "milli" prefix, DUH! so 45 mm is 4.5 cm. ~2.5cm is an inch. so that makes 45mm to be close to like 2 and 3/4 inch thick or in NORMAL numbers 1.8 inch thick. also, how hard is it to go here http://www.fatmat.com/fatmat/bulk/100ft.htm and see for yourself that it says that its 45mm on the manufacturer site. damnit, what do you people do in school, eat paintchips? i need to move to japan
dude i'm with you. fuck this US system bullshit. the metric system is so much easier to use and just makes fucking sense. the only reason the US system is still around is because americans are too fucking stupid to learn anything else. the majority of educated people in other countries speak at least 2 languages. one of which is english. why? because americans are too fucking stupid to learn another language and insist that everyone else learn their ass-backwards language and ass-backwards measuring system. /end rant to the OP please please PLEASE get a ruler and learn the basic units of measurement. these are fundamentals necessary for communicating ideas and measurments with other people and ARE important for everyday life.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is called Ethnocentrism.
