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98984, just got turboed Posted by White_eclipse, Feb-02-07 06:54 AM
alright here is what is done tdo5 turbo that is pushing about 7 or 8 pounds. should i up grade to bigger injectors and fuel pump? i also just bought a wideband. the reason why im thinking of bigger injectors is because the car just kidof studders if i hit the gas below 4 grand but if i slowly increase the gas it goes good. any advice would be great
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98985, RE: just got turboed Posted by djtrickee, Feb-02-07 07:16 AM
What fuel management are you using now?
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98986, RE: just got turboed Posted by jack_of_trades, Feb-02-07 07:48 AM
I hope you are at LEAST using a FMU or Super FMU at the moment. Regarless, there is absolutely NO way to have a turbo on your car with the stock fuel pump so get yourself a Walbro GSS-342 255lph high pressure pump and never worry about the fuel pump again (for the most part). http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Walbro%20255lph-HP%20pump%20install%20in%20stock%20pump%20bracket
If the above mentioned is true, the sputtering you are referring to is your car leaning out VERY badly and you are basicly trying to see how many parts you can break your engine into every time you get on the gas or go into even a few pounds of boost.
http://www.2gnt.com/index.php?d=Fuel%20System
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98993, RE: just got turboed Posted by White_eclipse, Feb-03-07 05:16 AM
im not running any fuel managment, ive been trying to find what else i needed so fuel wize i need a 255 fuel pump and mabey 450 injector and lean it out with a super afc, would this work?
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98994, RE: just got turboed Posted by totaleclipse_05, Feb-03-07 05:42 AM
LOL, you had better keep your car out of boost if you plan on using that engine still. Why would you turbo a car without fuel upgrades at all???
You seem to be on an obvious budget, so go with what Jamie suggested: a Walbro 255 High Pressure fuel pump for the eclipse and a 12:1 FMU. With that you can use your stock injectors and boost up to about 6 psi safely. I'm surprised you haven't blown or caused your engine any damage yet. Please, for the love of your car, read up A LOT more about turbo'ing a 2GNT.
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98995, RE: just got turboed Posted by jack_of_trades, Feb-03-07 06:34 AM
To use the 450 injectors you will need a SUPER FMU with a 4:1 disc and a larger -6AN fuel return line would make it easier to get the lower fuel pressure needed for a decent idle (around 16-20psi static pressure). The S-AFC would be helpful for idle but you'd be better off tuning the rest of your fuel curve with the S-FMU.
DO NOT BOOST AT ALL RIGHT NOW!! You WILL blow your engine!
Just keep reading the "MODS AND TECH INFO" section and you'll get yourself on the right track.
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98997, RE: just got turboed Posted by djtrickee, Feb-03-07 07:44 AM
Originally posted by White_eclipse im not running any fuel managment,
Haha. Can you say Boom?
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99002, RE: just got turboed Posted by cs82685, Feb-03-07 01:30 PM
No one else mentioned this, but I'm guessing he doesn't have a ML or FCD which could also be part of the stuttering. I'm sure it's leaning out like there's no tomorrow from the fact you don't have a larger pump and an fmu, but unless you're a 95 you are going to need a missing link or fcd also or you will still have problems once you get your fuel system set up. FCD's are sold by 2 of our board members if you check the FS section. STAY OUT OF BOOST UNTIL YOU HAVE YOUR FUEL SYSTEM SETUP!!!! Yes it's tempting to just boost a little, but you will damage stuff if you continue the way you are.
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99003, RE: just got turboed Posted by White_eclipse, Feb-03-07 04:04 PM
alright i just got a fmu, someone told me i could just use a gst fuel pump is that true?
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99004, RE: just got turboed Posted by totaleclipse_05, Feb-03-07 04:13 PM
I would just go with a Walbro 255. Once you get that, you should never really need to upgrade. They are only like $90 brand new also. I got mine from extremepsi.com
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99007, RE: just got turboed Posted by cs82685, Feb-03-07 04:29 PM
Originally posted by White_eclipse alright i just got a fmu, someone told me i could just use a gst fuel pump is that true?
I've heard others say it, but I tried it and the pump could not supply the fuel necessary, fuel pressure would not rise over ~60-65psi when 90+ is needed that's not good, just get a walbro
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99012, RE: just got turboed Posted by boosted60trimrst, Feb-03-07 07:36 PM
Originally posted by White_eclipse alright i just got a fmu, someone told me i could just use a gst fuel pump is that true?
i hope u are not boosting like that . get a walbro 255lph .100 dollars is better than the price of your motor . the stock pump is too small to boost anything with . you must be running lean as hell . also like mentioned part of what u are experiencing can be fuel cut from not having a fcd .
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99014, RE: just got turboed Posted by White_eclipse, Feb-04-07 01:07 AM
on the wideband it read 20.1 when it spoust to be 14.7. i will try and get everything and put it on this week thanks
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99015, RE: just got turboed Posted by WickedESi, Feb-04-07 01:49 AM
Goodness.
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99016, RE: just got turboed Posted by python6586, Feb-04-07 03:16 AM
20:1 lol, i never even heard of an a/f that lean, how the hell did you car even stay on, and no you dont even want to be at 14.7;1 that would be stoich but ur running boost on a higher compression engine you want your a/fs to be around 13 ish while under boost. i really dont know how your car is even running right now.
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99017, RE: just got turboed Posted by cs82685, Feb-04-07 04:03 AM
Originally posted by python6586 ur running boost on a higher compression engine you want your a/fs to be around 13 ish while under boost. i really dont know how your car is even running right now.
The common consensus is to tune for 11.5:1 under boost. 20:1 is just wow. I guess it's good you spent the money on the wideband, but you really need to stop boosting until your fuel setup is together
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99022, RE: just got turboed Posted by jack_of_trades, Feb-04-07 07:37 AM
Most widebands max out at 20:1 so he possibly could be even leaner than that! Honestly, I dont know how your engine is still in one piece right now,lol. So what ratio FMU did you get? You said you were boosting 7-8psi now but with the stock injectors and a standard FMU its safest to not exceed 5-6psi. If you wanted the 450 injectors in your setup you HAVE to get a S-FMU instead.
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99033, RE: just got turboed Posted by WickedESi, Feb-04-07 03:31 PM
20:1 usually means a misfire (like he said, wb maxed, unburnt oxygen coming by sensor), more often from being to rich, but the other is possible too.
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99035, RE: just got turboed Posted by Aggression, Feb-05-07 02:57 AM
What octane fuel you running?
I would check your plugs too and replace them with a colder plug if you haven't already!
You running synthetic oil?
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