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97588, first treadstone turbo car
Posted by darkclark, Oct-04-06 05:16 AM
i believe i am the first 2gnt with tis kit i bought it during August before it was put it on the treadstone preformance site i just got it running and was making a note of new 2gnt products love it so far it has a nice fluttery blow off beat a na 300zx and a few 5liter firebirds on 7lbs of boost here is a pic

http://imageshack.us>
97589, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by DarkOne, Oct-04-06 06:10 AM
It's a STAR kit. :shrug
97591, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by mcgyvr, Oct-04-06 06:16 AM
Originally posted by DarkOne
It's a STAR kit. :shrug


Yep, amazing how much cheaper it is when you just cast a manifold without the "STAR" logo on it

Take a pic looking down at the kit.
97600, RE: more pics soon
Posted by darkclark, Oct-04-06 09:13 AM
yes it is similar to the star kit but not as much as alot of guys have been saying although the holes in the manifold are in same places i is obviosly not cast from same mold as i have heard a few say will post an engine pic when i get home from classes but if you cant wait there are som pics of it in my other posts in the turbo forum
97602, RE: more pics soon
Posted by Kirby, Oct-04-06 09:36 AM
I love the R&D that went into the fitment of that IC. Do you ever park this car in a parking lot? I hope you don't scrape the pipes off the thing. I'm not talking trash here either, you should get that thing sitting higher, or else be extreemly careful not so scrape that front end..
Found your other pics though, I do like your mani better than the star, and it looks like the fitment is a little better. Starr has shit for quality control..
97605, RE: more pics soon
Posted by hybridrst, Oct-04-06 11:16 AM
what all was missing from the kit when u bought it or did it come with everything
97606, RE: more pics soon
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, Oct-04-06 11:27 AM
Here's a link to the kit.

http://www.treadstoneperformance.com/product.phtml?p=235&cat_key=12&prodname=420a+Turbo+kit+95-99+Eclipse+Talon

97607, RE: more pics soon
Posted by BumpinTalon, Oct-04-06 11:50 AM
That FMIC is awful man, but other then that it looks alright.
97609, RE: more pics soon
Posted by BlackMagic, Oct-04-06 11:53 AM
Originally posted by BumpinTalon
That FMIC is awful man, but other then that it looks alright.


Just because it sits a little low doesn't mean it's awful. I bet it gets the job done. I think I remember reading in corky bell that the vertical flows with more, shorter passage ways are more efficient anyways.
97610, RE: more pics soon
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, Oct-04-06 12:00 PM
He could just mount it higher...
97611, RE: more pics soon
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Oct-04-06 12:11 PM
Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE
He could just mount it higher...


x2
97629, RE: more pics soon
Posted by totaleclipse_05, Oct-04-06 06:33 PM
I personally am not a fan of how that intercooler looks, but everything else seems to be OK. I think they had another intercooler when they first came out with the kit and I liked that on better.

My friend just recently dealt with Treadstone and he wasn't too happy with the service. DSMCrazy3 here and on DSMTuners. He bought a manifold through them, great quality, but customer service kinda sucked.
97630, RE:stuff missing
Posted by darkclark, Oct-04-06 06:52 PM

they did have a different intercooler but i guess they were kinda small 6x18x2 no kits went out that way i have had quite a bit of email corespondance and it seem like a 1 guy operation aka jason stone


every thing he said was coming came but the piping was genaric so i had to but 45degree coupler a a stratit coupler and a few more tbolt clamps the fmic sits so low because i had some bracets fabed localy and the bumper wasnt on the car when it was done but the center bar on a standard tow truck clears it so im and i dont scrape any where in the street of my town can even get up some pretty steep driveways i not moving it any time soon i also had to get the down pipe welded it came with flanges and bends but had to get them welded and came with no fuel system but after all fab work and fuel system it has all cost about 2300 for a stage 2 kit then i got a few goodies i didnt need on top of that so im at about 2800 cheaper than hahn or star i believe

ps sorry no more pics ill post em later
97638, RE:engine pics
Posted by darkclark, Oct-05-06 08:18 AM
here is the engine as it is now

http://imageshack.us>
97639, RE:stuff missing
Posted by MitsuEclipseGS, Oct-05-06 09:02 AM
Originally posted by darkclark
so im at about 2800 cheaper than hahn or star i believe


I hope you mean $500 cheaper, because my star kit cost me $2800 out the door
-Todd
97640, RE:stuff missing
Posted by DarkOne, Oct-05-06 09:43 AM
Originally posted by MitsuEclipseGS
Originally posted by darkclark so im at about 2800 cheaper than hahn or star i believe
I hope you mean $500 cheaper, because my star kit cost me $2800 out the door -Todd


$2700 shipped here, and that was six years ago.
97641, RE:oh well i like what i got
Posted by darkclark, Oct-05-06 11:38 AM
oh well im happy with what i got an it was 2300 for the stuff i needed the rest is extras

kit 1850
12:1 fmu 150
fab work 150
walburo255 100
misc 50 hoses,fittings replace some screws with new ones

extras safc 200
450cc injectors not in till i get a sfmu 100
turbo xs 2 stage mmanual boost controller 200
97642, RE:oh well i like what i got
Posted by BlackMagic, Oct-05-06 11:43 AM
Originally posted by darkclark
oh well im happy with what i got


good that's what matters because it's your car.
97643, RE:oh well i like what i got
Posted by DarkOne, Oct-05-06 12:25 PM
By all accounts, it's a good buy. We're not downing that.

But I call a spade a spade, and no matter what anyone else calls that kit, i'll call it a STAR kit, because they're exactly the same.
97646, RE:stuff missing
Posted by darkclark, Oct-05-06 01:04 PM
Originally posted by MitsuEclipseGS
Originally posted by darkclark so im at about 2800 cheaper than hahn or star i believe
I hope you mean $500 cheaper, because my star kit cost me $2800 out the door -Todd


yes 500 dollars less i ment to put a comma after 2800
97650, RE:stuff missing
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Oct-05-06 04:46 PM
I guess for the price you cant ask for something perfect but if I were you i would plan on moving the filter after it rips loose from the compressor housing.
97656, RE:air filter
Posted by darkclark, Oct-06-06 05:19 AM
the filter thet came with i did rip loose but i had an extra and heve been thinking about where i want to put it for a while
97660, RE:air filter
Posted by J, Oct-06-06 08:06 AM
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE He could just mount it higher...
x2


x3

Yeah, that piping is seriously troubling (and I live in South FL - which is flat!). Better put a lift kit on that car or raise it pronto!

Dangerously low,
- J

'99RS N/A
'97GS Turbo (Dave_FL's)

WTB: sunroof paneling (tan), Black plastic insert around fogs painted P75 Burgandy (as factory), Stock Power Antenna
97677, RE:piping
Posted by darkclark, Oct-06-06 09:24 PM
Originally posted by J
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Originally posted by WIDECLIPSE He could just mount it higher...
x2
x3 Yeah, that piping is seriously troubling (and I live in South FL - which is flat!). Better put a lift kit on that car or raise it pronto! Dangerously low, - J '99RS N/A '97GS Turbo (Dave_FL's) WTB: sunroof paneling (tan), Black plastic insert around fogs painted P75 Burgandy (as factory), Stock Power Antenna


it ok i live in kansas there was acctually a scientific study done saying that it was flatter than a pancake plus i have only scraped one time in the 3 years of owning the car and i avoid that driveway now if i scrape even one time ill move it but till then i will leave it because its not worth the effort to me sorry guys
97678, RE:piping
Posted by Blizare, Oct-07-06 04:28 AM
But it looks kinda stupid :shrug

Other than that everything looks damn good man. Although I can forsee the future


1.SFMU install
2.450 inj install
3.touching manual boost controller :nono
4.running more boost on a stock engine than you should. :nono
5.Enrollment in the Boost addiction Club
97679, RE:piping
Posted by djtrickee, Oct-07-06 05:57 AM
Originally posted by Blizare
But it looks kinda stupid :shrug


Agreed. Just looks half-assed to me. Doesnt fit the shape of the car. Sell it and buy a nice one that actually fits in the opening and doesnt stick down.
97680, RE:piping
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, Oct-07-06 06:30 AM
Originally posted by djtrickee
Originally posted by Blizare But it looks kinda stupid :shrug
Agreed. Just looks half-assed to me. Doesnt fit the shape of the car. Sell it and buy a nice one that actually fits in the opening and doesnt stick down.

x2

If it's working you now, great. But buy one off of ebay that fits in the opening properly when you get the money. You got a good price on all that stuff and you're taking the criticism well, unlike most other newbies.

97681, RE:piping
Posted by totaleclipse_05, Oct-07-06 07:45 AM
I got my intercooler and piping for like 209 shipped on ebay. Looks and works great. I'm sure you could just find just an intercooler for even cheaper than that and it should look better.
97682, RE:piping
Posted by cs82685, Oct-07-06 11:05 AM
Originally posted by Blizare
3.touching manual boost controller :nono 4.running more boost on a stock engine than you should. :nono 5.Enrollment in the Boost addiction Club


hehe, this is why I bought a mbc and it's just sitting in my trunk.

As far as the look I don't think it's as bad as everyone is saying. Sure it doesn't fill up the whole in that bumper fully, but whatever. I might paint that bottom end tank and pipe just so it's not as noticeable sticking out from under the bumper though
97685, RE:piping
Posted by Bigtymr1021, Oct-07-06 01:17 PM
I like the downpipe...Wish they'd sell that downpipe by itself, external wastegate is gettin on my nerves...not to mention the lack of flexpipe scares me
97699, RE:piping
Posted by darkclark, Oct-08-06 03:49 PM
Originally posted by Bigtymr1021
I like the downpipe...Wish they'd sell that downpipe by itself, external wastegate is gettin on my nerves...not to mention the lack of flexpipe scares me


the down pipe was a custom fab it came with the flange and the bend but i had it made at a locate shop
97701, RE:piping
Posted by Bigtymr1021, Oct-09-06 07:32 AM
Originally posted by darkclark
Originally posted by Bigtymr1021 I like the downpipe...Wish they'd sell that downpipe by itself, external wastegate is gettin on my nerves...not to mention the lack of flexpipe scares me
the down pipe was a custom fab it came with the flange and the bend but i had it made at a locate shop


They did really nice work on it then
97708, RE:piping
Posted by 97eclipse97, Oct-09-06 03:25 PM
Originally posted by darkclark
the down pipe was a custom fab it came with the flange and the bend but i had it made at a locate shop


Any chance you could maybe work on putting some punctuation into your posts. Just a simple comma or period makes all the difference when trying to read what you wrote.

Back on topic, I also agree that you are asking for trouble with the low fitment, but it's your call. I guess I would say leave it until you get a new one that fits the whole opening. Good job on installing the kit by yourself though. I appreciate anyone that can actually do work on their car.
97700, RE: more pics soon
Posted by eclipse9504, Oct-09-06 03:11 AM
did you install the kit yourself or did you have installed profressionally?
97707, RE: more pics soon
Posted by darkclark, Oct-09-06 12:54 PM
Originally posted by eclipse9504
did you install the kit yourself or did you have installed profressionally?


i did it all myself
97687, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by StreetRacer_21, Oct-07-06 03:14 PM
Judging by all the scrapes on just his bumper, I am willing to bet that that intercooler pipe is gonna be ripped off in about a week or so
97692, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by JustOne, Oct-07-06 06:13 PM
Just give up now and sell the car :)

That IC placement makes me cry...sniff...sniff.
97721, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by Kirby, Oct-11-06 05:38 AM
Just an FYI I have a star fmic and piping for sale in the FS section if your intrested. The fit would be perfect for your kit judging by the mani. I do like what they did with your DP though, I keep meaning to take mine to the shop and get it done so I'm not torching my starter all the time, I'm just too damn lazy to do it though...
97751, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by eclipse9504, Oct-12-06 01:10 PM
was the IC piping hard to installand the downpipe?
I also have the treadstone kit
97779, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by darkclark, Oct-13-06 08:47 PM
Originally posted by eclipse9504
was the IC piping hard to installand the downpipe? I also have the treadstone kit


if yours came with the same stuff as me the piping is probably about as hard as any could really get because it is just a general pipe setup and i think it was designed for a cross flow intercooler i had to do some cutting and just figure it out although the intercooler piping is probably do able without it but i had to order a 45degree coupler and a strait coupler ad 4 extra tbolt clamps and i had an entire extra intercooler pipe left you will just need to play with it for a while to see how you like it. as far as the down pipe i would get the exhaust manifold and turbo bolted on then get a local welder/muffler house make a down pipe with the bends and flanges that came with the kit, i did mine with a single bend going into the stock downpipe to make it easy to find after market exhaust and keeping the flex section.

i also had to rotate the compressor side of the turbo to aim downward and make the piping path shortest
97783, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by eclipse9504, Oct-14-06 05:49 AM
how much did they charge you to make the downpipe?
Also is there anyway that the IC can be moved up more to keep
that bottom pipe from sticking out of the bottom of the bumper?
97823, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by darkclark, Oct-17-06 09:47 AM
you could probably get the downpipe done for under 100 and the intercooler could be moved because you have to make the bracket yourself and i also kept the stock bumper support accept for the little area i cut out so you could not see it when i cut the bumper cover and so the intercooler fit better
98778, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by ivan300, Jan-04-07 10:07 AM
Hey im planning to buy a treadstone kit in about a month so. I am just wondering if yours is still in once piece after a few months of driving hehe.
98779, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by DarkOne, Jan-04-07 10:17 AM
Originally posted by ivan300
Hey im planning to buy a treadstone kit in about a month so. I am just wondering if yours is still in once piece after a few months of driving hehe.


Dude, people have been running the exact same kit for ten years. It's a STAR kit by another name. I've had one on my car since 2000.
98781, RE: first treadstone turbo car
Posted by thedawg, Jan-04-07 10:56 AM
Congrats on being brave enough to try out a new company and saving $500 by fabricating all the extra parts missing from the kit yourself, looks like you did a good job with the exhaust. Keep us all updated on how it works out. :thumbsup
98788, RE: it is still nice
Posted by darkclark, Jan-05-07 07:37 AM
i will ad recomending replacing the hose that goes to the pcv valve with some higher quality hose because mine was sweating oil in a really wierd way. i stoped driving it this week i am taking the motor out for a biuld. i had 5XXX miles on the turbo when i started pulling the motor