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Topic subjectCar runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
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96455, Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-25-06 07:54 AM
So I was tired of working on the body of the car today so I figured I would take it out for a spin since I havent driven it in like a week. So I start it and Vac is 12" and usually on my car its around 16-18" normal. So I let it idle for awhile and its idling like shit and my a/f WILL NOT go any leaner than 11.7. So I try diving it, and as soon as you let off the gas coming to a stop, it stalls...When you try to shift, it stalls. So I come back home quickly and let it try to idle again by itself and its just all over the place, its soo shaky its rediculous. No codes either. Possibly a MAP sensor problem?
96457, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by DarkOne, Jul-25-06 08:48 AM
map or O2 sensor.
96458, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-25-06 08:49 AM
Originally posted by DarkOne
map or O2 sensor.


Ya I was searcing around a little bit and found o2 sensor probably cause. I am going to get my wrench from work tomorrow when I go back and pull the o2 out and clean her out and see if she is any better. If not, then I will start diagnosing with MAP after that.

Thanks for the hints Dino.
96459, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by DarkOne, Jul-25-06 08:52 AM
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Originally posted by DarkOne map or O2 sensor.
Ya I was searcing around a little bit and found o2 sensor probably cause. I am going to get my wrench from work tomorrow when I go back and pull the o2 out and clean her out and see if she is any better. If not, then I will start diagnosing with MAP after that. Thanks for the hints Dino.


If its dead, cleaning it won't help.
96460, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-25-06 08:53 AM
Originally posted by DarkOne
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Originally posted by DarkOne map or O2 sensor.
Ya I was searcing around a little bit and found o2 sensor probably cause. I am going to get my wrench from work tomorrow when I go back and pull the o2 out and clean her out and see if she is any better. If not, then I will start diagnosing with MAP after that. Thanks for the hints Dino.
If its dead, cleaning it won't help.


Its fairly new actually, maybe I will just return it anyway.
96487, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, Jul-26-06 10:23 AM
Mine did this when my egr took a shit. if yours is already blocked off ignore me.
96489, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-26-06 11:23 AM
Originally posted by CarbonFiberRST
Mine did this when my egr took a shit. if yours is already blocked off ignore me.


yeah thats been gone for awhile now.
96491, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-26-06 01:53 PM
New o2 and still same thing, will try a new MAP sensor Friday.
96503, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jul-27-06 01:52 AM
12"hg sounds like a big leak somewhere and that will make the ECU add more fuel.


Terry
96515, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by XMasta19, Jul-27-06 09:33 AM
...probably a good time to go ahead with the MSnS install :thumbsup
96516, RE: Car runs like shit, will not lean out at all...
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Jul-27-06 11:49 AM
Originally posted by XMasta19
...probably a good time to go ahead with the MSnS install :thumbsup


I was thinking about it, but I wanna be able to run it at the SO and I dont have time to fuck around with it until a couple of weeks after, so therefor, its going to get fixed and then thats it until I slap the turbo, radiator, fans and MSnS in :)
96614, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-03-06 04:05 PM
Okay so I swapped in a new o2 sensor and still the same thing.

I checked for vac leaks and I cannot find any at all with my test equipment. It idles at 12" of vac and after about a minute or 2, it will odd out to around 15-16" and idle somewhat, but a/f is still at 11.2 and under IDLING and it will not lean out what-so-ever.

Besides a vac leak and a bad o2, what else could cause a factor in having low vac and running rich?

I thought about the MAP, but I dont see how that would lower the vac, it would just run rich.

Then I thought about timing, but that was checked, its okay.

Idea's guys. idea's. I need to get this baby going in time for the shootout this coming weekend damnit.

This seemed to happen right after I painted my engine bay, I dont see how anything could have gotten fucked up though because the only thing I painted was metal, no wires or anything of any sort, lol...

Anyone know of anything to check or something? TIA 2GNT!
96621, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by Blizare, Aug-04-06 03:40 AM
Is it missing at all? Maybe like a stuck injector or bad wire/plug?

Okay, forget that. Why is it idling at 11.7 is the actual problem. lol

How's the FP? I'm not familiar with your setup but if the map and o2 are new theres some reason why your running so rich.
96622, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by BlackMagic, Aug-04-06 03:42 AM
Did you make sure all your wires are hooked up and not melted or something? Probably not the case but you never know.
96627, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-04-06 08:05 AM
Originally posted by BlackMagic
Did you make sure all your wires are hooked up and not melted or something? Probably not the case but you never know.


Yes, everything is fine.

The MAP is not new, but I dont think that will throw off the vac being so low.

I dont know what the fuck is hapening here.
96632, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-05-06 05:00 AM
Checked and again, and timing is off by like 1.5 teeth.

Thinking about switching the AEM gears for something else, I just dont like how the marks are on them even though I have corrected them with new marks, I still dont get the 20" of vac that I used to when I had the stock gears, I am always around 16" now.

Anyone use Fidanza or Unorthodox gears?
96634, RE: Will not lean out at all...UPDATE
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Aug-05-06 09:56 AM
Also noticed last time I drove it when all this started, that I would build boost but not be boosting. Like I would push the accel pedal down, turbo would spool as normal and build about 10psi, but I was still just driving normally.

Either a boost leak obviously, or its assicated somehow with something else being fooked up...?