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Topic subjectMaking sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
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96398, Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by 1997RS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
The following list is just a rough, "main" parts list of things that I have already ordered/or already have...please let me know if i'm missing anything obvious or essential to building a high hp 420A-T(urbo):

(PowerTrain only)
1) Low comp pistons
2) Crower H-beams
3) Forged crank - HAVENT BOUGHT YET (necessary?)
4) Fully ported/polished/machined head w/ turbo cams (not from a 4g63)
5) GT30R Turbo
6) 12x18x4 FMIC w/ all piping
7) Missing link
8) PTE 1000cc injectors
9) Jeep TB (60mm)
10) Custom exhaust mani.
11) 3" turbo back exhaust
12) Adjustable cam gears
13) MegaSquirt
14) '02 Neon Tranny
15) Walbro 255lph fuel pump
16) Tial 40mm WG
17) Tial BOV
18) Quaiffe LSD

...yah now that I look at that list, im SURE im missing some things...
96401, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by hookduphatch, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
stainless valves, titanium valve springs/retainers.
96402, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by BumpinTalon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
oh boy.
96403, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by 1997RS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Oh boy?

I suppose you meant, "Oh boy, not another newbie retard jumping into knee deep shit with no clue what he's getting into..." right? Well, pretty much...but getting my question answered would help a little.
96404, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by boosted60trimrst, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
driveshaft shop stage 2 axles . aeromotive 1:1 regulater . wideband
96406, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by BumpinTalon, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by 1997RS
Oh boy? I suppose you meant, "Oh boy, not another newbie retard jumping into knee deep shit with no clue what he's getting into..." right? Well, pretty much...but getting my question answered would help a little.


You called it but since you recognized where I was coming from.. take the forge crank off the list, you don't need one and nobody makes one in any case, also, you do not need a Missing Link if you get a Megasquirt, the '02 tranny is narrowing it down a bit, the '01-04 ones will work I believe, the Quaife LSD is seriously expensive and hard to come by, a phantomgrip would work just as well, I think you mistyped your ic core size - 21x18x4 sound better?? - and for your turbo cams, Crower 2 Turbo grinds are the ones you want.
96407, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by DarkOne, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Half-inch headstuds. You'll lift the head off at ~400hp with 7/16ths studs. You'll have to drill out and re-tap the block, and drill out the head and head dowels. You'll also want at least DSS tage 5 axles and hubs, anything less is pointless. If you're going balls out, go balls out. Street tires are ajoke at that point - if you want it to do anything useful, invest in a 26x10x15 slick, or shut the fuck up and get back to work.
96409, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by 1997RS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Yah, I knew exactly where you where coming from...thanks for the information, keep it comming. Eh, about that forged crank, it was just an "option" for one of howell automotives rebuild kits, so I dunno.

Yes, I realize slicks are an absolute must pushing this much power on a FWD, but this list is really just to target the powertrain.
96410, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by freddy_00_69, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
There is no way to find out until you install everything. Its not going to be how much you have put into your motor, but how much boost your motor can handle since your going to need over 20psi to do it.
96411, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by baxsom, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
get the quaife

yes its expensive, it can be found every day at horsepowerfreaks.com
but in the end it will last longer and be more reliable than a phantom grip.
i am extrememly happy with mine
96412, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Not just stainless valves, Oversized valves!

You need to make this bulletproof, I ran 26psi and its amazing.
96413, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by whodatt1, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
do not bother with the phantom grip or any other type of "insert" LSD. Get something escellent like a quaiffe and if that is too much, get the next best thing in the Retrofit. Nothing else, believe me you don't want those inserts leaving a ton of metal shavings or coming appart in your tranny... not pretty.
Do not forget motormount inserts and a good suspension.. otherwise all that HP is useless.
96418, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by drhess06259, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
kinda surprized no one has mentioned flywheel and clutch other wise it really has no where to go.
96422, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by mcgyvr, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
:+ :+ who knows? no one besides Hahn has made that much power before without giving up and selling off their car :+

96424, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by mcgyvr
:+ :+ who knows? no one besides Hahn has made that much power before without giving up and selling off their car :+


I refuse to give up or sell the 2gnt! NOT HAPPENIN!
96425, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by freddy_00_69, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I agree with you. The highest we have seen on here was 410whp and there are alot of turbo 2gnt members. But i hope that as time goes on, we will have more 400+whp 420A, including myself.
97946, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by RAD_DSM_4, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
I was aiming for 450hp on my nitrous motor with 12:1 pistons, eagle rods, comp cams, port & polished head and intake, msd, ect... Maybe next season?
97962, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by freddy_00_69, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by RAD_DSM_4
I was aiming for 450hp on my nitrous motor with 12:1 pistons, eagle rods, comp cams, port & polished head and intake, msd, ect... Maybe next season?


You wont get that with nitrous and that compression. I dont think anyone has gotten 300who with that, but i may be wrong. Good luck
97963, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Just wait til I get my MSnS in this winter and get tuned up next spring, Im gonna be fuckin all kinds of bitches, hahahaha

High 11's here I come!
97964, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by XMasta19, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
...baby jesus is crying
97968, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by DJ420a, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by XMasta19
...baby jesus is crying


LMFAO....this great!!!

97965, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by freddy_00_69, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
Just wait til I get my MSnS in this winter and get tuned up next spring, Im gonna be fuckin all kinds of bitches, hahahaha High 11's here I come!


I just hope to keep my car running. I want low 12's or high 11's, i am still debating on if i want microtech installed in my car. I am tired of spending money, plus i am buying my wife a 700whp supra next year in september or october. I hope you hit 11's, there is no reason you shouldn't with your car.
97985, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by sike, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Mike what were you running to hit 13.07 @ 103? What was your 60', tires, boost, fuel setup? I'm hitting 108mph 1/4's but I haven't gotten under a 13.5, the phantom grip probably makes up the diff there.
97987, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Originally posted by sike
Mike what were you running to hit 13.07 @ 103? What was your 60', tires, boost, fuel setup? I'm hitting 108mph 1/4's but I haven't gotten under a 13.5, the phantom grip probably makes up the diff there.


You must have missed the time slip in the Racing section. Was running on a SFMU, 525cc Injectors, and S-AFC. Tires were Hoosier slicks. Boost was about 19-20psi, I shifted too early in 3rd, I could have stretched it out a little longer, but hell, next year, you will see some impressive times.

98091, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by CustomGS, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Thats some FUNNY shit!

Mike: "You must have missed the time slip in the racing section"

Mike: "Here, let me post this SUPER HUGE copy of it"

lmao lmao
98142, RE: Making sure ALL bases are covered for 450+ whp (checklist)
Posted by rs-pssst, Dec-31-69 06:00 PM
Did anyone say clutch?? Clutchmaster stage 4-5 or Spec stage 4-5.
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