Ok before you go saying "Use the Search function or look at what GSGoinFast has posted", I am not looking for those options.

Ive been scanning the forums for about 2 years and I read all the VFAQ's and "Build your own kit for under $1000" guides. I know what they all say. But here is my dilema...

Any guide written only says either "Here is how to install your $3,000 turbo kit from HRC" or "Here is a guide to building a kit where you might as well melt down your own steel because you gotta fabricate everything"

I have yet to see a guide where someone goes out....makes out a list of EVERYTHING you need, then includes a price and link or location from where they got it. I wanna see a list of parts (yes including each and every one of those little oil line kit parts from home depot). With NOTHING being fabricated except say..the downpipe.

The list should go something like this:

Turbo Section
1) T3/T4 T04E - Ebay store - www.ebay.com/uberturbos_or_something - $189 (shipping inlcuded)

2) 420A custom Manifold with T3/T4 flange- Ebay store - www.ebay.com/custom_manis_or_something - $235 (shipping included)

3)Wastegate - etc. etc.

Oil Section
1) so and so feet of braided oil line - Home Depot - $8

2) 3/8" NPT nipple - Home Depot - $1

3) 3/8" NPT Tee - Home Depot - $1

4) Etc., etc, etc



Total should not exceed $1500 for EVERYTHING including gaskets.


GSGoinFast's write up is great, dont get me wrong.....but not everyone has the resources to fabricate their own stuff. And not everyone can find that "Cheap, used, perfect condition turbo" on ebay. I'd gladly pay $100 more for a manifold that already done and another $100 for a brand new turbo right now. And half of the websites he linked do not show anything. (again not bashing him)

I know it would be time consuming but if I get some time here, maybe i will make out a list.

Its sorta like on another forum i go to, a computer forum. Some newb will come in and say hey i want a gaming rig with new parts for $1000. Then a member will post a good list of great parts for under that price.

Hope this helps out other people too.

well i have some headers and a t3 garrett turbo for sale if you want. they both work awesome i just installed on my car but i decided to buy a project car and not blow my car cuz its my daily driver..

Turbo Project Underway

You dick! You basically come in here and DEMAND that we do ALL the work for you? If you can't work this out yourself, you shouldn't do it at all, because news-fucking-flash, you WILL have to fabricate things, you WILL need a lot of time, and you can't use a computer forum analogy for this because computers are pretty simple in comparison to a car. They all pop together with a few small screws, with no welding involved, and the parts are ridiculously easy to find.

It is actually easier then ever right now to put together a turbo kit for this car. Look only a little further down the page and BAM there is your T3 flanged turbo manifold with external wastegate flange, on eGay for cheap. Look in the honda-tech vendor forum and BAM there is tons of T3/T4 turbos and Tial 38mms there for sale for cheap, BOVs too. Look a little harder and BAM you can get a used Star downpipe on here, or better yet make your own 3" dp. Look on honda-tech again and BAM you found your SS braided oil send and return lines. GSGoinFast's guide tells you EXACTLY what fittings to get and where to get them, I will not repeat him. Charge pipes are also pretty easy, but you are going to make those yourself because you can't buy them at all for our car pre-made, especially for a custom setup.

This isn't anything but lazy! Like hell you have read on here for two years, you still don't know shit! You should KNOW by now how this is going to go, and you need to search a LOT more. I could list how my turbo kit has gone together, and exactly where I got everything from, but my fabricators are local to me and I have spent a lot more then $1500.

word. no one in here makes lists because each part is usually bought used off an individual person. you will find everything u need on ebay and the sale/wanted section of this forumn. honestly, u been scanning the forumn for 2 years and still have no idea where to get ur parts from? so u don't want to fabricate anything but u want a custom kit? and you don't want to pay anything over $1500? good luck. ur best bet would be to look for a used turbokit off a 2gnt member.

Whoa lol chill there bumpin.

I never said I dont know what parts to buy or where to get them...cause i do, in fact i have read the instructions on how many times and have a list of my own. I guess you guys sorta got the wrong idea of what I was tryin to say.

Say someone comes in here lookin to put together a kit. Yes of course they could spend hours using the search button and go over GSGoinFast's post a million times.

BUT, a person on a budget cant just rely on "Garret T3 turbo from ebay", "2G sidemount free from friend", and "Clamps, hoses, and other hardware from Home Depot"

I'm not sayin nothing will be fabricated or welded...I am just saying, what if we put together a list of known vendors and known products that work all for a price of $1500 or less. With as little welding/fabricating as possible.

With a very thorough list so that people dont have to use the search button time and again. Plus, its just a list. Not a guide. It'd be as simple as taking GSGoinFasts list and adding to it.


So please chillax, take a breather, punch something, do whatever you do to releive stress cause its not that difficult to stomach.

I think you should start by searching and buying the easy parts first... the one you can install before the turbo. Missing link, turbo timer, gauges, fuel pump... after choose if you want a mitsu or garrett turbo and take a manifold for it. Now sfic or fmic... and you can mouint it before the turbo... just dont put the piping. While you are doing this you have time to learn again and buy other missing things. You cant expect find all goodies you need in 1 week if you dont buy a kit... now 2 months and I have 3/4 of a kit. Btw im doing this way, make your own!

Originally posted by ChloRure
I think you should start by searching and buying the easy parts first... the one you can install before the turbo. Missing link, turbo timer, gauges, fuel pump... after choose if you want a mitsu or garrett turbo and take a manifold for it. Now sfic or fmic... and you can mouint it before the turbo... just dont put the piping. While you are doing this you have time to learn again and buy other missing things. You cant expect find all goodies you need in 1 week if you dont buy a kit... now 2 months and I have 3/4 of a kit. Btw im doing this way, make your own!

maybe you didnt read my 2nd post...try again

Alright dude, this is what I did and the prices off the top of my head.

Used Hahn s16g - 250 = 2gnt member
Used Hahn mani - 140 = Ebay
Used Hahn FMIC - 400 = 2gnt member
2.5" SS downpipe - 200 = 2gnt member
Walbro 255 - 80 = 2gnt member
All oil lines - 50 = Local store
Oil pressure, Boost, EGT, Fuel pressure gauges and Autometer pod - 260 = Summitracing.com
Aeromotive 1:1 - 140 = Summitracing.com
Megasquirt v3.0 with all sensors harness etc - 430 = 2gnt member
Daytona WEGO wideband controller w/sensor - 280 = Daytona-twintec.com
All IC piping brand new from Hahn - 400

Add all that together and you get 2,630. I dont like to skimp when it comes to turboing my car. Especially with stock internals on my daily driver. You can have it cheap and cut corners but its your call, this is just what I've bought.

Thats not including tools I've had to buy, the oil pressure sensor I broke, etc. I suggest having at least 300 bucks extra for any extra stuff you might have to buy.
The reason why everyone got pissed at you is because most people dont want to take the time to do tons of research and type it all out for someone else. I have been building my kit for over a year now and have learned so much from this site. Always remember the SEARCH button is your friend.:thumbsup

maybe you dont understand that used mean different price... places dont sell items same prices and star doenst make any kit right now so price may vary and cant tell a fixed price... try again?

Originally posted by GreenRicer
Alright dude, this is what I did and the prices off the top of my head. Used Hahn s16g - 250 = 2gnt member Used Hahn mani - 140 = Ebay Used Hahn FMIC - 400 = 2gnt member 2.5" SS downpipe - 200 = 2gnt member Walbro 255 - 80 = 2gnt member All oil lines - 50 = Local store Oil pressure, Boost, EGT, Fuel pressure gauges and Autometer pod - 260 = Summitracing.com Aeromotive 1:1 - 140 = Summitracing.com Megasquirt v3.0 with all sensors harness etc - 430 = 2gnt member Daytona WEGO wideband controller w/sensor - 280 = Daytona-twintec.com All IC piping brand new from Hahn - 400 Add all that together and you get 2,630. I dont like to skimp when it comes to turboing my car. Especially with stock internals on my daily driver. You can have it cheap and cut corners but its your call, this is just what I've bought. Thats not including tools I've had to buy, the oil pressure sensor I broke, etc. I suggest having at least 300 bucks extra for any extra stuff you might have to buy. The reason why everyone got pissed at you is because most people dont want to take the time to do tons of research and type it all out for someone else. I have been building my kit for over a year now and have learned so much from this site. Always remember the SEARCH button is your friend.:thumbsup

Heres my problem with that theory though....everyone praises GSGoinFast for spending $723 on a turbo kit....but no one thinks a $1500 kit can be done? cause its gonna blow your car up? Please..

Seriously if you have nothing important to add, dont add anything at all. Your just making yourself look stupid.

Once more, I would like to point out that if you dont want to help out others because "you had it hard" dont even bother posting. I am trying to compose a list of decent parts BRAND NEW (or readily available used like 1g BOV) for people who literally cant afford more expensive parts.

Oh and get off your search button high horse for 5 seconds, quit being like all the other moderator wannabe's on here. If you had read my original post you would realize what a list like this would actually mean. LESS people asking for what parts do i need and where do i get them, therefore less times you and your possie has to say "Use the search button" get it? Got it, good. Maybe common sense never crossed your mind eh.


Ok here is an example of what I'm talkin about:

1) T3/T4 57 trim turbo - Ebay Store - $200-260 shipping included
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=280002401510&ih=018&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

2) Custom 420A turbo manifold (w/ optional external wastegate) - Ebay Vendor (can be contacted for custom mani) - $205 with no wastegate - $235 with (all shipping included)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=110001223294&ih=001&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT

3) 1g BOV - Ebay (very common) $30-70 (shipping included)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1G-DSM-Blow-Off-Valve-BOV-Turbo-Talon-Eclipse-Greddy_W0QQitemZ330005984964QQihZ014QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

4) 420A FMIC intercooler kit - Ebay Store - $156 (shipping included)-
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/New-Neon-DOHC-Front-Mount-Intercooler-Kit-Turbo-420A_W0QQitemZ260006387284QQihZ016QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

5)1G BOV IC Pipe adapter (1g bov flange for piping just clamp in) - Ebay Store - $43 (shipping included) -
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&item=250002964610&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1

6)35mm HKS wastegate (8psi) - Ebay Store - $84 (shipping included)
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/35mm-HKS-DSM-Turbo-Wastegate-8Psi-W-All-Hardware-JDM_W0QQitemZ280004897204QQihZ018QQcategoryZ33742QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


Thats $768 WITH SHIPPING included and thats more than half of the kit already. At least the most expensive parts. I will keep adding to the list as I find readily available parts at decent prices. If anyone wants to add to it please feel free.

FMIC - 200-400 (ebay) (cause you just show the pipe)
walbro fuel pump - 100 + Shipping(ebay)
Turbo Timer - 80-100 + Shipping(ebay)
Synapse Missing Link - 50-60 + Shipping(ebay)
EGT Gauge - 80-100 + Shipping (ebay)
Boost Gauge - 40 + Shipping (ebay)
*A/F will be monitoring by turbo timer
Gauge A-Pilar - 30 + Shipping (ebay)


~ 650$ Shipping Included
With some no name parts but all needed.

I will make the list look better later, and sure I forget other things.

yea links would be great, preferably ebay stores (or place that sells them in multiples) Thanks

I agree with everything Bumpin wrote, you are lazy and a dickhead. Make a writeup yourself and post it.

/Bad mood

Where did all your anger come from dude, you come in here like you own the place and start making demands, WTH?!?

#1- Buying the parts new for a turbo kit will cost you in excess of $1400 without charge-pipes/downpipe or fabrication. The only way to go under that amount of money is to fabricate things yourself. If you don't have the tools or the skills, you need to have the money to pay someone else.

#2- There are so many factors involved with a turbo kit, defined by goals, ultimate power level, cost of parts (in your case), street, strip, autoX, etc. that a list of parts for a universal turbo system is almost a stupid idea in the first place.

#3- If you are interested in coming up with this list for the betterment of our community and to help others out, make it yourself. If you come to us with a list already, and then ask input on said list, you will be recieved with a much more positive attitude. Actually demonstrating knowledge rather than just stating "I pressed the search button" will take you leaps and bounds further than you could even imagine. Remember, you're asking for help from the guys who know their shit, but you ask it like a kid not willing to do anything for himself, and these guys don't respond well to that kind of display.

Originally posted by Keith2172
Where did all your anger come from dude, you come in here like you own the place and start making demands, WTH?!? #1- Buying the parts new for a turbo kit will cost you in excess of $1400 without charge-pipes/downpipe or fabrication. The only way to go under that amount of money is to fabricate things yourself. If you don't have the tools or the skills, you need to have the money to pay someone else. #2- There are so many factors involved with a turbo kit, defined by goals, ultimate power level, cost of parts (in your case), street, strip, autoX, etc. that a list of parts for a universal turbo system is almost a stupid idea in the first place. #3- If you are interested in coming up with this list for the betterment of our community and to help others out, make it yourself. If you come to us with a list already, and then ask input on said list, you will be recieved with a much more positive attitude. Actually demonstrating knowledge rather than just stating "I pressed the search button" will take you leaps and bounds further than you could even imagine. Remember, you're asking for help from the guys who know their shit, but you ask it like a kid not willing to do anything for himself, and these guys don't respond well to that kind of display.

#1. I'm not making demands, i was asking for others input (as well as my own) to create a well well organized list (with working links) of readily available/decent priced parts for around $1500.

#2. My goal was not to create total non-fabrication. Some modding of the downpipe would probably be needed but with the list that i gave, there will probably be a fraction of the welding needed from GSGoinFasts list.

#3. If you had read any of the previous posts, you would know that I have supplied half the list already and this in no way is a one-in-all solution for everyone. Its a basic kit to get you started on a budget with real live links and no searching, everything included.

In my original post I was just venting frustration because not everyone can get a 2g sidemount for free from a friend or borrow a mig welder or pay for someone to do it.

If your gonna sit there and name call thats fine but read every post before you try to pretend you know whats going on.

P.S. You said it will cost over $1400...lol...well duh that right there shows you havnt read a word in this topic.

Looks to me like everyone needs to chill out..

To the original poster, Chris'(GSgoinfast) guide is like I said, a GUIDE. It is in no way shape or form anything more. It lists all of the things you need to achieve boost. Some things you can get from a few different places and will come in a few different ways. It's what makes the kit custom. You get products where you find them. Your idea isn't a bad one for a write up with all the links to where you get the parts, but it has a major flaw. Which is that all companies change stock and prices. So a link may be valid one day and gone the next.

Very true and i have taken that into consideration and realize that. But on average its a good bet that the original vendor can be contacted directly and the same product can be bought for a similar price. At least for some time. Also thats probably a good reason that Ebay stores shouldnt be used for everything even though their the most affordable. (probably due to drop shipping?)

Again i wanna stress that I'm am in no way criticizing GSGoinFasts write-up. Its a great writeup and very helpful. This is basically an addition to that. An option for those who want to turbo their car but tired of looking and waiting for deals. Or dont want to have to find a welder for most of their kit.

Its not about being lazy either. If I were lazy, I would just drop 3k on a Hahn kit. Its about saving time and money and building a decent kit on the resources you have.

I dont know how some of you presumed I was angry...maybe the all- caps? lol..emphasis is hard express on the internet i guess. I apologize if I came across rude at first.

Originally posted by ryanmwIts not about being lazy either. If I were lazy, I would just drop 3k on a Hahn kit. Its about saving time and money and building a decent kit on the resources you have.

Then you shouldn't turbo your 2gnt. Saving time and money are about the last things you should be concerned with.

Originally posted by thedawg

Originally posted by ryanmwIts not about being lazy either. If I were lazy, I would just drop 3k on a Hahn kit. Its about saving time and money and building a decent kit on the resources you have.

Then you shouldn't turbo your 2gnt. Saving time and money are about the last things you should be concerned with.

Tell me the exact difference between the kit ive listed so far and a Star or Hahn kit. Please, all you ever hear on this forum is "Yea ive pretty much replaced the entire kit with custom stuff". I guess thats a sign of quality eh?

And please dont say customer service.

You guys can bash all you want but as long as it helps someone out it would be worth it.

don't bite the hand that feeds man, if you plan on keepin' this car these are the guys you're going to want in your corner.

Originally posted by Keith2172
don't bite the hand that feeds man, if you plan on keepin' this car these are the guys you're going to want in your corner.

Bite the hand? I wasnt the one who got all pissy in the first place. I guarantee most of the ppl who replied to this thread just read the title and decided to post. No one bothered to read anything else.

Besides why would I want people in my corner who are going to call me a dickhead for tryin to help out? This whole thread has made me think twice about some of the N/A community.

I realized in my 2nd post that I might have come off rude at first and apologized and tried to keep the topic on track. But everyone had to keep the flames comin. It almost makes me wanna sell my car and move on to a friendlier crowd.

And you Keith...i was readin GSGoinFasts thread about his write up and all you could really say was that his engine was the saddest thing you've ever seen. Get off your fucking high horse man. You have a FWD for christs sake. This is not the end or the world for other people like it is to you. Its a simple hobby to keep them busy....some people would rather enjoy their rides rather than making it a chore.

Anyways I will try to make the complete list and be done w/ it..i know thats good news for many :)

As for that turbo in your link, it's a known fact that alot of the cheaply priced turbos on Ebay are cheaply made. There are pictures of compressor housings that were glued together and had separated. No one can tell you that the turbo will not work, it probably will. The question is, how long. I can tell you that it probably wouldn't make it passed 1/2 a year, if even that far.

The way you presented yourself is what is causing all of the hatred. You came in and immediately started demanding. Even if they weren't serious demands, like you said yourself it's hard to display emotion online. You also talk about having so much research done. I won't say you don't, but considering buying a turbo like that doesn't display that knowledge you should have taken in....

Originally posted by ryanmw
Tell me the exact difference between the kit ive listed so far and a Star or Hahn kit. Please, all you ever hear on this forum is "Yea ive pretty much replaced the entire kit with custom stuff". I guess thats a sign of quality eh? And please dont say customer service. You guys can bash all you want but as long as it helps someone out it would be worth it.

Is your "kit" you listed those eBay links posted? Are you actually comparing those links to quality as Hahn or Star? For one, that turbo you listed is probably the biggest piece of junk money can buy. I would never buy a chinese knock-off turbo such as that even if it was 20 dollars. That turbo will not last. Sure it's a cheaper price, but you get what you pay for.

Most of the time when people replace their kit parts with other parts, it is because they exceed the part's limits, or close to it. If someone buys a Hahn stage 2 kit and they are wanting to up the performance from what it was made for, parts are going to have to be replaced. It has nothing to do if the "quality" is not up to par.

No offense, but I find your posts unbelievable. How can you say you have researched and all this for 2 years, but not know the most common things as replacing parts from a kit you bought with even better ones to push the limits of power you make?

Originally posted by totaleclipse_05

Originally posted by ryanmw Tell me the exact difference between the kit ive listed so far and a Star or Hahn kit. Please, all you ever hear on this forum is "Yea ive pretty much replaced the entire kit with custom stuff". I guess thats a sign of quality eh? And please dont say customer service. You guys can bash all you want but as long as it helps someone out it would be worth it.

Is your "kit" you listed those eBay links posted? Are you actually comparing those links to quality as Hahn or Star? For one, that turbo you listed is probably the biggest piece of junk money can buy. I would never buy a chinese knock-off turbo such as that even if it was 20 dollars. That turbo will not last. Sure it's a cheaper price, but you get what you pay for. Most of the time when people replace their kit parts with other parts, it is because they exceed the part's limits, or close to it. If someone buys a Hahn stage 2 kit and they are wanting to up the performance from what it was made for, parts are going to have to be replaced. It has nothing to do if the "quality" is not up to par. No offense, but I find your posts unbelievable. How can you say you have researched and all this for 2 years, but not know the most common things as replacing parts from a kit you bought with even better ones to push the limits of power you make?

And you know the turbo wont last...how? Do you have one on your car right now or personally know someone who has one to verify it wont last?

Didnt think so.

Gee its funny how GSGoinFast bought a USED turbo, and welded a manifold himself (his first one? I dont know but likely) and yet he never got crap from anyone about it. No one thought his was low quality....oh no.

How likely is it to buy a used turbo on ebay and get shaftplay and risk rebuilding?

How likely is it that someone who welds their own manifold for the first time will make a poor quality one over someone who has done hundreds?

You make absolutely no sense with the quality claims because if it were going to blow your car up I really dont think GSGoinFast's write up would be a good place to start looking.

This thread is not meant to help the likes of you who obviously have too high of standards for a part that is sold on ebay. It is meant for those poor kids who have just enough to boost their car, have fun with it, and a little left over for emergencies.

I personally would rather spend 1500 on a kit and have 2000 left for a rebuild rather than spend 3500 on a hahn kit and blow the engine. But to each their own.

Like I said your best advice in this thread is probably none at all because your completely missing the point.

I am going to make this "Plain and simple"..."Cut and Dry"!!!

Prices change...Stores shut down/move!

So what someone else gets it for, where they got, how much shipping was might not be the same by the time the next guy comes along and reads that "write-up".

So then when that person decides to use that "write-up" as his/her means of buying all the parts, they will probably run into the situation I just broke down for you.

Take your time and shop around. You'll find good deals eventually. DSM traders is good.

umm just my .02 but this all boils back down to the contractors triangle. you can have it cheap, fast and easy..pick two.(cant remember the member w/ this in his sig..but credit to him).

"I personally would rather spend 1500 on a kit and have 2000 left for a rebuild rather than spend 3500 on a hahn kit and blow the engine. But to each their own."

theres a reason you spend 3500 for the hahn kit...its called R&D so you dont have to worry about that shit unless you got problems before hand. its like speakers... you can buy the 15 dollar roadmasters and yeah theyre gonna work...for a while...or you can break down and buy the alpines, what have you, and not have to worry about it.

"Gee its funny how GSGoinFast bought a USED turbo, and welded a manifold himself (his first one? I dont know but likely) and yet he never got crap from anyone about it. No one thought his was low quality....oh no."

sorry dude but that proves to me that youre a dick. dissin on a guy who built a manifold HIMSELF, oh wait he built a whole kit without crying for people to link him information on how to build a kit for 1500 bucks. and so what if it was his first manifold...it worked didnt it? all he did was share his success story. he didnt ask for a 1500 dollar turbo kit and say "do it for the kids." he did it himself and showed others how to follow along. now why do you have to diss that? and besides for all you know GoinFast might be one hell of a welder..or it maybe nothing but a bunch of chickenshit bubble gum on that manifold. but at least he tried and didnt give up when someone flamed at him.

now dont get me wrong here, id like to hear more of quality turbo kits out there for 1500 bucks. and im all for sharing where people get their parts from. back to the contractors triangle..you get what you pay for.

sorry for being an asshole..im on the rag too

Originally posted by DSMTalon
umm just my .02 but this all boils back down to the contractors triangle. you can have it cheap, fast and easy..pick two.(cant remember the member w/ this in his sig..but credit to him). "I personally would rather spend 1500 on a kit and have 2000 left for a rebuild rather than spend 3500 on a hahn kit and blow the engine. But to each their own." theres a reason you spend 3500 for the hahn kit...its called R&D so you dont have to worry about that shit unless you got problems before hand. its like speakers... you can buy the 15 dollar roadmasters and yeah theyre gonna work...for a while...or you can break down and buy the alpines, what have you, and not have to worry about it. "Gee its funny how GSGoinFast bought a USED turbo, and welded a manifold himself (his first one? I dont know but likely) and yet he never got crap from anyone about it. No one thought his was low quality....oh no." sorry dude but that proves to me that youre a dick. dissin on a guy who built a manifold HIMSELF, oh wait he built a whole kit without crying for people to link him information on how to build a kit for 1500 bucks. and so what if it was his first manifold...it worked didnt it? all he did was share his success story. he didnt ask for a 1500 dollar turbo kit and say "do it for the kids." he did it himself and showed others how to follow along. now why do you have to diss that? and besides for all you know GoinFast might be one hell of a welder..or it maybe nothing but a bunch of chickenshit bubble gum on that manifold. but at least he tried and didnt give up when someone flamed at him. now dont get me wrong here, id like to hear more of quality turbo kits out there for 1500 bucks. and im all for sharing where people get their parts from. back to the contractors triangle..you get what you pay for. sorry for being an asshole..im on the rag too

your proving my point exactly.

and please ..like i have been telling everyone else..read my posts.

Its crazy how people just post random crap when they dont even know what they're talking about. I NEVER cryed for people to link me to parts. I linked half of them myself. I simply asked for people to input their own submissions for an overall linkable list. If you dont feeling like chipping in then please dont rag on other people for trying.

Again...i would like to point out the ever so obvious that I was not ragging on GSGoinFast, I was simply stating that he used spare used parts and put together something rather quickly at a cheap price. I am in no way bashing on him or comparing myself to him. Get over it.

Lets use your speaker analogy because that is ever so helpful and relevent here :rolleyes:

My first sub was a road warrior 150 watt sub from wal-mart that i bought 7 years ago and built my own box for and threw in the back of my cutlass supreme with a 350 watt amp hooked to it. Guess what I still have that speaker in my closet and it still works like a champ. Unlike my infinity kappas that had to be replaced due to poor Quality Control.

I love analogies just as much as the next man but there are varying degrees to the contractors triangle.

If you wanna go buy that $3500 kit with your perfect compression and feel confident and safe that nothing will go wrong then by all means...go ahead. That right there would be the dumbest thing to do in my opinion

The smartest thing is obviously save all you can, rebuild professionally, install a hahan kit professionally. Thats about $4500-6000

If I were gonna do that, I would sell my 2g for 9k, add in the 6k for turbo kit and put 15k down on a loan for a supra.

Back on topic, again let me remind you that this is not a cry for help on what parts to buy or how to build a kit. It is asking for input on some affordable, decent quality parts. All ebay vendors I listed have a 99.8 or higher rating. Which means people are giving Good ratings. I dont think anyone would give a good rating for poor quality.

I could go on and on....and you haters could go on and on trying to see who is right. Point is, neither of us are right. Some can afford the higher quality and some just cant. They have college to pay for, babies to feed, lives to live. A car is important but dont make it your life.

Plus, I have taken better care of mine than a 90 year old grandmother. While some on here buy hahn kits and run it into the ground. All the R&D in the world isnt gonna matter when if your not careful.

So please, keep the flames comin. Cause I got a counter claim for every claim you make. Or...we could stop all the foolish name calling and bashing, and work together to make a list for those who are willing to try it.


My proposed plan in the first place was this. Create the list AND with the help of others, keep it updated when links go down or vendors quit selling. OMG! its that simple. So heres what we've learned so far.

1) There are many options you can take at your own risk when going turbo.

2) One of those options includes building a custom affordable kit

3) This thread was designed to ease the onslaught of newcomer questions and provide a basic affordable kit that should last for most people.

4) This thread never intended to bash on any other user's practices until other users started to bash on mine. If those intentions were misconstrued from the beginning by others, an apologoy was offered but obviously not accepted.

5) This list in no way should affect your lives and one should not get confused and think that he/she has to build their kit this way. With sufficient mental capacity, it should be realized that this list will help others in speeding up a process that many do not have time for (Some work long hours/have wives/kids/etc.)

6) Any dispute will result in a counter dispute and end result futility. If you must flame or put down, by all means go ahead but try to keep it in another topic. You have your own opinions, I have mine and you wont convince me otherwise. Why post when you have no clue what your trying to dispute? So save your time.

7) Calling me a dickhead, or saying that I'm angry, or bashing others is futile as well. Its the internet, I may sound angry but that is in fact intense argument, not anger. Calling people dickheads on the other hand is a sign of anger. You should probably get some kind of treatment for that.

Any other questions? So back on topic if anyone has some links, post em up! I am working a full time job and have 2 exams coming up soon so I cant research as much as I'd like, but I'll try to get some links up

Stages Page
http://www.2gnt.com/nuke/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=145

Other Peoples kits
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=80274&mode=full

FCD (you should thank me for this clue)
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=94078&mode=full

ETC.
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topics&forum=8&page=1

You think we’re dicks…
http://dsmtuners.com/forums/

By chance, how old are you?

I am a 22 year old Electrical Engineer. Links are much appreciated. Yea ive been to tuners quite a bit. Even more segregation there lol.

I threw the EE part in there cause i know you think i'm coming off as newbish. And i can understand that. I dont have much experience w/ boosted/import/newer engines. I mostly dabble in electronics or older engines, and from what I've come to learn with products/service is that you can find great bargains on even decent quality parts.

I've found this as a whole, not just electronics. For example, 2 years ago, I put together and installed myself a dvd/motorized lcd combo in my car for $250 when everyone else was paying $2000 at Circuit City.

Granted it was not all in one package but with our double din's it doesnt matter and it looks professional. Best of all is it works like brand new, (Great TFT by the way) and i watch a movie on it at least 3 times a week.

I'm a hippocrate though because I said electronic equipment analogies wouldnt fly lol. But you see where I'm goin. I appreciate the criticism but it just sucks when everyones so nasty about it. But considering my first post after i re-read it I can see that justified.

I have a FMIC and piping Ill sell you for $300 shipped.

with all the time you spent arguing with people here that are gonna save your ass when you won't know the hell you re doing, you could have searched all over the internet and found some good deals already....

there is no such thing as spending 3 weeks creating a list of parts/vendor and hoping to buy everything you planned, simply cause it won't be possible. trust me I ve been there, done that...

If you want my advice, just jump on a good deal when you see one and when you got everything, write it up and post it.

good luck tho,

-Ivan