im just wondering if its possible to run both on a 2gnt...or
is it just asking too much? im not sure how far off base i am
here, but im thinking if youre running larger injectors than
necessasary for your car, and you run a computer controlled
kit, that only sprays @ WOT, say such as the Venom kit,
wouldnt you be ok? because the kit pulses the injectors to get
more fuel out of em, and it monitors the O2 reading to adjust
for fuel, so wouldnt this work? or is it just not that simple?
(nothing ever is lol)

[div class="dcquote"][i][b]Originally posted by
DSMTalon[/i][/b]
im just wondering if its possible to run both on a 2gnt...or
is it just asking too much? im not sure how far off base i am
here, but im thinking if youre running larger injectors than
necessasary for your car, and you run a computer controlled
kit, that only sprays @ WOT, say such as the Venom kit,
wouldnt you be ok? because the kit pulses the injectors to get
more fuel out of em, and it monitors the O2 reading to adjust
for fuel, so wouldnt this work? or is it just not that simple?
(nothing ever is lol)
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There are alot of variables you left unaccounted for. With
enough money many things are possible. Don't waste your money
on a venom kit. ;)

Originally posted by greygoose
Don't waste your money on a venom kit. ;)

Worked great for me. N/A and boosted. Unless you have actually had experience with it be careful what you do ro don't advise...

like to say i got a venom kit kicking around, bought it for a good price... but i didnt have any plans of using the gas, i was more interested in going the turbo route, but why let it just sit there? might as well use it right? so im just trying to figure out what it'd take...like to say id think that if your injectors were sized right for the boost youre running, adding a venom kit to the equation shouldnt be too much of a hassle, about the only real concern i could think of is mechanical engine damage from overboosting/high EGT's

...bump... anyone know where i could go to get some info on setting this up?

Originally posted by DSMTalon
...bump... anyone know where i could go to get some info on setting this up?

not a whole lot of info to be had on the subject...at least that i can find w/ the search button. any advice for some keywords or info...guess i forgot to mention in origonal post that it would be run on a built engine..and like maybe a 50 shot(on a N/A) tops...is that just lookin for burnt valves and what not?

Well...no. You're running into the "Naws blows engines, man!" mentality, and that's BS. You can add nitrous to anything, ANYTHING! You're over complicating the setup with the nitrous computer monitering the O2 sensor and varying injection accordingly. Forget all that. You build an engine with low compression, grab yourself a decent sized turbo (in this case I wouldn't worry too much about lag), slap it together with a good solid EFI computer that can control TIMING (this is your biggest factor), and top it off with a progressive nitrous system. If you jet the nitrous right (I'd say up to 150 shot is fine) and have your fuel map set a little on the rich side for the turbo (you may consider some 104 octane fuel BTW), then the rest is going to be about the timing and staving off detonation. The progressive injection controller will be more then plenty to control the nitrous, and I'd squeeze 15% (hence why you don't need to worry too much about lag :thumbsup ) from the line and ramp it up to 100% at about 6000rpm. I know I'm saying this casually like it's as easy as droppin a duece, but an engine is an engine. There are some little tricks you can use to assist in the longevity of the engine, ceramic coatings, stuff like Swain Tech piston and chamber coatings, a good balance job will go a long way. Some good head work and a lot of calculating to figure out the cams (can't help you there :( ) It's gonna take effort, but it's been done time and time again since the 1960's so it's possible. Hope you have deep pockets though, this isn't something for the faint of heart.

The best advice is to do more research. You have to figure out what you want from the system.

A progressive controller is nice, but a pressure switch or an RPM switch may be all that you need. It's not a question of possibility but rather how intense you want to make it.

Originally posted by DSM_John
It's not a question of possibility but rather how intense you want to make it.

Quoted for truth

I agree that the venom computer controlled bullshit is just added complication. That's like Nitrous with training wheels.

Get a wet kit. Jet it correctly (take into account fuel pressure at max boost on the fuel side), and go. Start with small shots, 30hp, 50hp.. and make sure you're not going lean. If it rattles, try adding fuiel. if it still rattles, run a smaller shot, or run less boost, or run higher octane fuel.

it's not rocket science.

thanks for the advice guys. once i get my engine finally together and i get it all dialed in and im comfortable with it ill start messin around with the nitrous. but yeah thanks at least now i have a direction as to where i need to study to do this. :thumbsup