I just got everything running right, thanks to cesar, and it pulls hard as hell. I am running 12-14 psi now with my wideband reading around 10-11, so i am still playing with it. I am waiting to buy the AIC so i can install my 8-injector setup to run 25psi. Damn, the turbo feels good, but it is laggy, but it feels much better than my old super 16G. Starts to spool around 4500 and not sure when it hits full boost, i am to busy trying to control the car after that. Well, for my setup, i just have Howell Automotive's built short block, stock head, MP 60mm throttle body, South Bend Clutch, 02 neon tranny, FMIC, 42lb green top injectors,2.5 inch downpipe and exhaust(with test pipe), with the other little goodies(ex:wideband band o2 sensor, gauges). Just wanted to post an update on my car, sorrry for the long post.

congrats dude when u gonna dyno it? and lets see some pics/vids, especially when ur do 25 psi, thats gonna be insane!!

Originally posted by rs_smoked_you
congrats dude when u gonna dyno it? and lets see some pics/vids, especially when ur do 25 psi, thats gonna be insane!!

I want to dyno soon, but need the time to go do and money. I will most likely get it dyno'd at CFT. I will try and get some vids when i do. Thanks

damn man that's awesome, that's a great turbo, post up some pics man

I will try and get some up soon.

You're going to need more than fuel control to boost 25 PSI with that turbo. A simple CD box w/ timing retard module should work fine.

Originally posted by dougie2
You're going to need more than fuel control to boost 25 PSI with that turbo. A simple CD box w/ timing retard module should work fine.

Yeah, Cesar is helping me out with everything since he is boosting 26psi. I still have a few things to buy before i get that high, but hopefully soon. I am gonna try and boost 15-16 tonight with 100 octane gas.

Cool. Listen to the engine real carefully for pinging before you boost the hell out of it.

It's refreshing to see guys around here running turbos other than the HRC Super Turbo lineup.

I'm not running any timing control. I run 26psi with 93 and fuel additive. Always run a little richer if running w/o additive. My datalogger reads timing and stays between 13 and 15 degrees. Always goes a little lower at 4900 rpm, around 13 degrees. It goes back to 15 after 5000 rpm. No matter how many runs I make at the track, always watching the EGT, AFR and datalogger info. Also, I do a compression check everytime after the track and get 180psi all across.

Cool. But 13* advance is getting down there. Are you sure the ECU isn't detecting some knock and pulling back timing? I've never tuned a 2GNT boosting over 21-22 PSI on any turbo, that I didn't have to pull timing out of due to knock.

I always logged about 17-18* at WOT with no knock on the stock ECU. However, I have noticed different timing number with different year ECUs.

Yeah, I maybe be getting a little knocking, although I don't here anything it might be there. Like an old post, not all knocks are audibles. This is why I keep checking the status of the engine. It is like you say, every engine run with slightly diferent settings. Just watch for any condition that may damage your engine. So far, few years since I rebuilt the block, I have had good results with my settings. Now, if I had a standalone then I could do fine tunning and timing control. All depends on how deep is your pocket. Some day I will upgrade to MS, for now 8-injector will do. This year will try to run 11's. Need to upgrade axles and get ARP head studs or bolts. Will try 28 to 30psi.

Hey Freddy, I'm happy for you. We have to meet soon.

Originally posted by customrsturbo
Yeah, I maybe be getting a little knocking, although I don't here anything it might be there. Like an old post, not all knocks are audibles. This is why I keep checking the status of the engine. It is like you say, every engine run with slightly diferent settings. Just watch for any condition that may damage your engine. So far, few years since I rebuilt the block, I have had good results with my settings. Now, if I had a standalone then I could do fine tunning and timing control. All depends on how deep is your pocket. Some day I will upgrade to MS, for now 8-injector will do. This year will try to run 11's. Need to upgrade axles and get ARP head studs or bolts. Will try 28 to 30psi. Hey Freddy, I'm happy for you. We have to meet soon.

I will be down within the next month or so for dyno time at CFT. I will give you a call when i do and let you know where to meet at. I want to install the 8-injector before but i am not sure yet, need the cash first :D .

Here are some quick pics i took this morning.







Sorry for the huge pics, will resize later on.

damn thats a biggin, shit looks good bro, when you get some vids postem up

As soon as i get a friend that can download them, i suck at posting vids, as a matter of fact i dont know how to. Hopefully soon.

YIKES!!

Put a filter on that baby :P

Other than that.......nice turbine :)

Originally posted by Blizare
YIKES!! Put a filter on that baby :P Other than that.......nice turbine :)

Never had a filter, been good without so far.

nice setup man. Have always loved that style hood.

Just one question, since i was getting pretty much ready to throw my kit on. You dont have any problems with the wastegate being open like that and blowing right on the upper radiator hose and causing damage. I've seen it cause it to swell up w/o a dump tube or some type of protective sleeve around the radiator hose.

No problems running it open, it hasnt damaged anything and the radiator hose is still fine. I may put a dump tube on later, but i am buying the new turbonetics evolution wastegate on first.

Originally posted by freddy_00_69

Originally posted by Blizare YIKES!! Put a filter on that baby :P Other than that.......nice turbine :)

Never had a filter, been good without so far.

my friend ran his turbo without a filter, then it ate a rock

Originally posted by BlackMagic

Originally posted by freddy_00_69

Originally posted by Blizare YIKES!! Put a filter on that baby :P Other than that.......nice turbine :)

Never had a filter, been good without so far.

my friend ran his turbo without a filter, then it ate a rock

My friend says the same thing. But, i guess i will learn the hard way if it does, haha. I like it that way and i have had all my turbos(T3, super 16g, and SC61) that way and nothing yet.

should at least put on a durable aluminum net on it. You get to see the turbine and don't have to worry about flying debris entering.

Yeah, i had a few races last night, i will post them in the racing section. It was a fun night, it may take some time to get used to the lag, but when it spooled, it felt nice.

dude that thing is huge, and my huge i mean sexy lol. no nice set up tho!!!

damn you have come a long way since I seen your setup at NOPI. You gonna go to the SO this year bro? I hope so...F NOPI and roll with us up to the SO.

Originally posted by Aggression
damn you have come a long way since I seen your setup at NOPI. You gonna go to the SO this year bro? I hope so...F NOPI and roll with us up to the SO.

Thanks, i have been working on the car since i got back from NOPI, so it is running better. Where is the SO? I am not sure if i am even going to NOPI this year. It doesnt seem like it used to be and i am getting tired of the show, but i dont know yet since it is still early in the year.

Nice setup...as for the tuning, just be carful running higher boost on pump gas, and esp without any timing control. Be VERY cautious when retarding timing with pump gas, because that will drive up your EGT's significantly. One or two degrees is fine, but no more than that IMO. If you have to pull more than that, you need more fuel octane, lower boost, or colder air charge. With my experience with a S16g, 93 octane, and 8.8:1 compression ratio pistons, 15 psi is just about the max on 93 octane and PROPER amount of timing(roughly around 15-17 degrees, NO retard). Its my opinion that running any timing under 15-17 degrees is not the best thing to do, for both power and and safety. EGT's get really hot under 15 degrees. Its ALWAYS best to run more octane than retarding timing. You make power that way..with more octane you can run more timing, more boost, and that makes power!

Originally posted by XtremeRS
Nice setup...as for the tuning, just be carful running higher boost on pump gas, and esp without any timing control. Be VERY cautious when retarding timing with pump gas, because that will drive up your EGT's significantly. One or two degrees is fine, but no more than that IMO. If you have to pull more than that, you need more fuel octane, lower boost, or colder air charge. With my experience with a S16g, 93 octane, and 8.8:1 compression ratio pistons, 15 psi is just about the max on 93 octane and PROPER amount of timing(roughly around 15-17 degrees, NO retard). Its my opinion that running any timing under 15-17 degrees is not the best thing to do, for both power and and safety. EGT's get really hot under 15 degrees. Its ALWAYS best to run more octane than retarding timing. You make power that way..with more octane you can run more timing, more boost, and that makes power!

I ran last night on 93, i like to run 100 octane but i didnt feel like driving out of my way to get 100 octane. I usually run 100 octane to be safe like you said when boosting higher than 14psi. I ran the super 16G at 17psi on 93 octane and it ran great, with no severe problems with EGT's. I am not pulling any timing, i think i am just gonna have to leave the timing like it is b/c i dont have any timing control. I agree with with running higher octane then retarding the timing. Thanks for your opinion, i appreciate suggestions and help from other 2gnt members.

I run 93 and 94 all the time with my SC61. Ive never ran anything higher and Im putting out 18psi with no probs. I run the MS but with no timing.

What are your trims? Mines .63 76

Also, Im wondering why your getting more lag than me. I start boosting around 3500-3800, depending on load and I hit full boost almost instantly. Defintley by 4500.

Originally posted by DJ420a
I run 93 and 94 all the time with my SC61. Ive never ran anything higher and Im putting out 18psi with no probs. I run the MS but with no timing. What are your trims? Mines .63 76 Also, Im wondering why your getting more lag than me. I start boosting around 3500-3800, depending on load and I hit full boost almost instantly. Defintley by 4500.

I know the compressort side is .60 A/R, i left the car at home so i have to check the exaust side tomorrow. I probably start at around 3800, but like you said depending on load. I get full boost around 4500, it hits so fast and i havent looked at exactly when full boost hits. I say 4000rpm because that is when i start to feel it. I am having troubles with my wastegate, so when i get a new one i think everything will be fixed, the wastegate has a leak, it is messed up.

Here are some pics of us before driving to Savannah:

(Ek9 Civic with an H22 swap in it)


(stock 240, Blue SRT with some mods, my wife's red escort)


(Sr20DET blue 240, AGP Silver SRT4, stock yellow SRT4)


AGP SRT4


Eclipse_RS-T on right, wife in the middle, stock 240)


(Eclipse_RS-T wanting a paint job)


(Blown Turbo from AGP SRT4 (bad shaft play and blades are damaged)


(Calling for a new ball bearing turbo)

So was your friend with the EsssArrTeeFo running filter-less also?

No, but his shit was faster then all the other cars out there besides me, haha. Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it". I guess it depends on the person.

Originally posted by freddy_00_69
Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it".

I guess the guy on the phone always has a good chunk of change in his pocket for spare turbos. :shrug

Originally posted by slowmitsu

Originally posted by freddy_00_69 Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it".

I guess the guy on the phone always has a good chunk of change in his pocket for spare turbos. :shrug

:nuts , huh. :D

Originally posted by freddy_00_69
Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it". I guess it depends on the person.

Do what you want it's your money and im guessing you are going to leave it without a filter but like someone said at least put aluminum mesh over it or something. is "looking cool" really worth possibly ruining that nice new turbo?

Originally posted by BlackMagic

Originally posted by freddy_00_69 Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it". I guess it depends on the person.

Do what you want it's your money and im guessing you are going to leave it without a filter but like someone said at least put aluminum mesh over it or something. is "looking cool" really worth possibly ruining that nice new turbo?

Yeah, i am gonna run a little mesh on it. Thanks

For the love of god. At least run a filter for the sake of your engines health. Even very small dirt/dust particles are eventually going to take there toll of the turbo and the engine. I think if you clocked your turbo and fixe that first blue coupler you could rework you IC piping and probably spool a little faster.

Yea running w/o a filter is ......whats the word.....

Retarded really. Think of how dumb you'll feel on the side of the highway when a rock flys in the will the blade spinning at 30K rpm's. lol

You'll feel fucking stupid.

Well, since i am not a redneck that goes mudd bogging in my eclipse, i think i am fine. I have driven like that for years, no problems, i drive an 1hr away, oh and that is on I-95, wow. I know you guys are trying to help, but i have already posted about it.I dont see why some of you are still crying over it. No need to use names, we dont need little kids on here. At least i am trying to go somewhere with the car, then just a simple T3 or super 16G turbo with forged internals and run 15psi for the rest of your lives.As for the sitting on the highway, that would be an easy fix, just buy another one, i wouldnt look stupid, only immature people like you would laugh. I respect you guys suggestions and help, so lets just keep it that way and let the "FILTER ON TURBO" issue go away.

Get a nice ported head and that turbo will be spooling much faster! But nice work so far mang!

Originally posted by totaleklipse97
Get a nice ported head and that turbo will be spooling much faster! But nice work so far mang!

Thanks guys, after i get the 8-injector setup, i am gonna buy a ported and polished head, maybe some mild cams.

Yea, thought you said you were painting it in Christmas 2005.

Anywho, the setup looks real nice. :)

Originally posted by dsmmyth
Yea, thought you said you were painting it in Christmas 2005. Anywho, the setup looks real nice. :)

I figured, i want the power first, so i am getting the motor and everything running goo first. Then save up for paint. Thanks

Originally posted by BlackMagic

Originally posted by freddy_00_69 Filterless looks better, i dont see what the problem is, besides "what if a rock gets in it". I guess it depends on the person.

Do what you want it's your money and im guessing you are going to leave it without a filter but like someone said at least put aluminum mesh over it or something. is "looking cool" really worth possibly ruining that nice new turbo?

Fawking ditto.
Very nice looking Eclipse.