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Topic subjectBuilt Motor Boost Levels?
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91183, Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by R34Eclipse, Nov-06-05 02:38 PM
OK i Looked around and found a lot on the stock motor levels and power output, just wondering what yall think would be safe with my build and what kind of numbers to expect, I'll be tuning with the new GReddy Emanage Ultimate ....

STAR Stage 2 Turbo Kit
HAHN Front Mount Intercooler
HAHN Intercooler Piping
STAR Turbo Manifold
STAR 2.5" Downpipe
HKS SSQV Blow Off Valve
Turbonetics T3/TO4B Turbo
Turbonetics External Wastegate
Wiseco 8.8:1 Pistons (20 Over)
Eagle H-Beam Rods
New Crankshaft
Ported and Polished Head
Head Milled .04
Crower Custom Grind Cams
Crower Valve Springs
Crower Retainers
Crower Valves
Venom Fuel Rail
Venom 440cc Injectors
Venom Intake Manifold
Apex-i N1 (GS-T 3")
Spec Clutch
EGR Valve Removed

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97 RS-T, STAR Stage 2, Decah Lambo Doors, 19" Axis Hiros, Built 420a
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91184, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, Nov-06-05 04:31 PM
With proper tuning (don't know anything about the ultimate) you can max out whatever turbo came with your kit.
91187, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Aggression, Nov-07-05 12:58 AM
Not sure about #'s, but I have heard with 440s you will be maxing out your fuel with about 14-16psi.

My benchracing guess would be...278whp!:evilgrin
91188, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by ForceFed420a, Nov-07-05 01:18 AM
Originally posted by Aggression
Not sure about #'s, but I have heard with 440s you will be maxing out your fuel with about 14-16psi. My benchracing guess would be...278whp!:evilgrin



Yeah, from a quick glance, it seems that your injectors are going to be what limit you.



Brian
91191, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Blizare, Nov-07-05 03:02 AM
Def get larger injectors in there and the only bottleneck will be the turbine itself.

This car should go. :P
91192, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by thedawg, Nov-07-05 03:09 AM
I've run 18psi on a S16g and Ford 440's. Still nice and rich.

I think the Eagle rods are rated at 400hp but you're much more likely to kill a piston with detonation or other mistakes before you hit 400.
91196, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Aggression, Nov-07-05 04:24 AM
What other supporting fuel mods have you done? Hopefully a walbro 255 and a SFMU.
91201, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, Nov-07-05 06:25 AM
I forgot about the injectors... Suieclipse said he ran 21psi on 440's... I've run 18 and it was still rich. You'd probably want to keep it around 15-16psi with 440's though. Thats what I do, makes me feel a little bit safer.
91207, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Nov-07-05 08:25 AM
I ran 20psi one day with 440's, SFMU, Walbro 255 in-tank and obx fuel rail this spring. I ran 16-18psi all spring though was I was still a bit rich (11.0).
91208, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Aggression, Nov-07-05 09:09 AM
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST
I ran 20psi one day with 440's


Whats the longest anyone has done this with no issues?
91210, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Avenger, Nov-07-05 09:55 AM
You guys are comparing boost levels on different turbos. *HINT*HINT* Oh and by the way ... the RC Eng formulas don't mention boost pressure ... just fuel pressure *HINT*HINT*.
91211, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by Avenger, Nov-07-05 09:57 AM
Originally posted by Aggression
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST I ran 20psi one day with 440's
Whats the longest anyone has done this with no issues?


The better question is "WTF are you thinking running that high of an insane fuel pressure on a regular basis?!?!"

91212, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Nov-07-05 12:57 PM
Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by Aggression
Originally posted by eclipse982nrRST I ran 20psi one day with 440's
Whats the longest anyone has done this with no issues?
The better question is "WTF are you thinking running that high of an insane fuel pressure on a regular basis?!?!"


I only ran it like 4 times to just get the feeling of high boost, hell it was great, and yes I went through a quick tank of gas!

Aggression, not too sure how long everyone has ever went with no problems, but I always though 440's fuel up to like 22psi. I could be wrong, but thats just in the research I read and shit on this site. I know suieclipse ran with 440's for awhile on 18psi though.
91213, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by grain, Nov-07-05 01:10 PM
i ran (run) my 440's upto 20psi with my megasquirt. runs fine. but im running the s25g.
91219, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Nov-07-05 02:53 PM
Originally posted by grain
i ran (run) my 440's upto 20psi with my megasquirt. runs fine. but im running the s25g.


ya i was using the e50 t3/t4.

now i have the 60-1 t3/t4 but never used it yet! waiting for next spring :)
91251, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by freddy_00_69, Nov-08-05 11:25 AM
I guess i will find out how high i can go soon. I just installed my PLX wideband 02 sensor kit and a slim fan so that my Precision SC61 turbo would not burn my stock radiator fan, all i am waiting on is my internal wastegate housing and downpipe flange. I got 42lb green top injecors, accell in-line fuel pump, walbro in tank, and S-FMU. But i will be going either microtech or portfueler within the next few months. I will let you know how my turbo feels.:D
91253, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by DJ420a, Nov-08-05 01:37 PM
I run my 450's at 18psi all the time, no probs. WBo2 at 11.4 at full boost.
91272, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by ForceFed420a, Nov-09-05 03:01 AM
DJ, you running the MSnS setup so you can pull timing at 18 psi?

Brian
91289, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by DJ420a, Nov-09-05 10:06 AM
Originally posted by ForceFed420a
DJ, you running the MSnS setup so you can pull timing at 18 psi? Brian


I can, but Im not.

91282, RE: Built Motor Boost Levels?
Posted by eclipse982nrRST, Nov-09-05 08:32 AM
Originally posted by DJ420a
I run my 450's at 18psi all the time, no probs. WBo2 at 11.4 at full boost.


I am with 440's at 11.7 @ 18psi