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Topic subjecttial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
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9055, tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by mitseclps, Nov-10-01 04:15 AM
for a little more i can get a tial bov and tial wastegate w/ my kit instead of the deltagate wastegate and greddy S bov. i was told they function the same way and either way i go would be fine performance wise, just the tial's look a hell of a lot better. are they made better or perform better or is it just looks and would it be worth it (about 300 ducks more than if i go w/ the deltagate/greddy)

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9056, RE: tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by mitseclps, Nov-10-01 05:06 AM
by the way, its coming w/ a vortec fuel pump. i remember someone had asked that a while back.

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9057, RE: tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by Stan2gnt, Nov-10-01 11:01 AM
LAST EDITED ON 10-Nov-01 AT 05:15 PM (PST)

First off the Tial 35mm wastegate is about $25 more than the deltagate and is a direct fit (read no additional labor for them). The Tial BOV is about $80 more than the Greddy type S so you should ask them why they are trying to charge you $300 more.

Second the Tial BOV is too damn big for this application. The valve is 50.3mm (nearly 2"). Thats bigger than the Greddy R or any other BOV I can think of.

IMO Tial has a very good reputation but they are just trying to sell you more sh*t one of which is a bad choice for your application. Either way you wont be able to tell a difference except the Tial BOV might not go off under low boost.

Tial wastegates are said to be made of more heat resistant materials than most others. For $25 I'd try it. For $220 I'd tell em to kiss my ass.

Also IMO neither tial product looks better. The Deltagate is a high luster polished metal and the greddy anodized purple. Both Tial products look like anodized bomb shelters.


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9058, RE: tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by mitseclps, Nov-10-01 04:06 PM
>is a direct fit (read no additional labor for them).
what do you mean a direct fit? they're custom making the exhaust manifold.

>The Tial BOV is about $80 more than the Greddy type S so you >should ask them why they are trying to charge you $300 more.
i'll ask. i don't think he knew the prices off the top of his head, but i'll see. i'm talking to them on monday.

>Second the Tial BOV is too damn big for this application. The >valve is 50.3mm (nearly 2"). Thats bigger than the Greddy R or >any other BOV I can think of.
that i didn't know.

>For $25 I'd try it. For $220 I'd tell em to kiss my ass.
i agree.

thanks for the nfo, i'll get back to ya later about what they say on monday.

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aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit | symborski shifter kit
9059, RE: tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by Stan2gnt, Nov-10-01 05:10 PM

>what do you mean a direct
>fit? they're custom making the
>exhaust manifold.

I should have said direct replacement. Bolt patterns, flanges and valve size all identicle. If I wanted to change my deltagate to the 35mm Tial it would bolt right up to my manifold and discharge tube without modification.



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9060, RE: tial bov/wastegate or deltagate/greddy typeS
Posted by mitseclps, Nov-11-01 04:48 AM
u're rite, i found them online and compaired, if i were to get the tial's it would be only 100$ more than the other 2...i'm going to ask tomorrow...i'm not sure if the price i was given was correct, if it was i'm going to be pissed.

http://plaza.ufl.edu/bryan01/personal
aem cai | greddy 4-1 headers | highflow cat | greddy sp cat-back exhaust | nx nitrous system - 75 shot | nos bottle heater | purge kit | steering mounted nitro/purge buttons | autometer carbon fiber gauges (a/f ratio, nitro press, oil press) | sprint performance 2" springs | b/m carbon fiber dash kit | symborski shifter kit