http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/eclipse-420a-star-performance-turbo-kit_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ33615QQitemZ7998055738QQrdZ1


Star stage 3 huh? i never got IC pipes like that with my stage 2? or an IC like that? or manifold?

Ya I saw that on dsmtuners.com (I think)... its a rip off... like my kit!!! :thumbsup

Yea that is a scam for sure. He has no feedback, prob some kit picture he found and called it a stage 3. Look how he only wants 800 hundred dollars for it. Its because he doesnt want to go over a 1000 so he can use Western Union without needing id to get the money. Same thing almost happened to me.

Edit. Lol i decided to call him, apparently he is in FL not NJ. I recognized the voice, its the same guy that tried to scam me. I asked it I could come look at the kit and he said that wouldnt work. This is like the 8th time this guy has tried this.

Yea, that mani. is obviously not for our cars, but it looks a lot like a 4g63 flange.

Did you report him?

I just checked it out and he reposted the ad and included his cell number:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7999508428

Originally posted by DarkEclips96
Yea that is a scam for sure. He has no feedback, prob some kit picture he found and called it a stage 3. Look how he only wants 800 hundred dollars for it. Its because he doesnt want to go over a 1000 so he can use Western Union without needing id to get the money. Same thing almost happened to me. Edit. Lol i decided to call him, apparently he is in FL not NJ. I recognized the voice, its the same guy that tried to scam me. I asked it I could come look at the kit and he said that wouldnt work. This is like the 8th time this guy has tried this.

yeah that guy is a piece of shit...I hate him...I'm about to call him up and cuss him out!

Originally posted by youkickedmydog
Ya I saw that on dsmtuners.com (I think)... its a rip off... like my kit!!! :thumbsup

haha.

You realized that now :P

i bet Mcubed45 would say thats the best most, awesomest kit ever created... and defend the guy selling it...:wary

humm its already up to over $400 you think we should let them know its a scam?

I think it comical that people actually try and get away with scams liek this, especially since the Star kit gets sold on ebay from time to time.

Terry

This same guy used to scam the star stage II on ebay and he had acutal picutres of it.

He almost got me...opened my eyes about buying shit offline

LMAO!!!

I just called him and had him go over EVERYTHING about the details with me. I told him those aren't the Star pipes and he said, "Umm, yes they are! they came straight from Star!" Well, I then told him I WORK FOR STAR and he got all nervous! I pointed out that there isn't a fuel management system listed and internals aren't listed and it ca't possibly be a Stage 3...

He hung up on me.

So I called back....he didn't pick up. So I went to leave him a voicemail. It doesn't list his name or anything! LOL

Well, I hung up and then though, "Let's have some fun with this kid!"

I get a message that states "The mobile customer you have called does not answer."

Well, I have a friend that works for eBay in their fraud department...this guy is toast.

Originally posted by PiKapp504
LMAO!!! I just called him and had him go over EVERYTHING about the details with me. I told him those aren't the Star pipes and he said, "Umm, yes they are! they came straight from Star!" Well, I then told him I WORK FOR STAR and he got all nervous! I pointed out that there isn't a fuel management system listed and internals aren't listed and it ca't possibly be a Stage 3... He hung up on me. So I called back....he didn't pick up. So I went to leave him a voicemail. It doesn't list his name or anything! LOL Well, I hung up and then though, "Let's have some fun with this kid!" I get a message that states "The mobile customer you have called does not answer." Well, I have a friend that works for eBay in their fraud department...this guy is toast.

that is some funny as shit lmao. i hope this guy gets what he deserves.

Great, finally someone that will stop this fool. He keeps trying this, yea he almost got me too and opened my eyes. I hope ebay can do something about this now.

I called this guy this morning and told him he was a piece of shit and I figured out his scam...

He said, "if thats what you want the think"

What a fucking bastard I hate this SOB

Well, it's been forwarded onto the proper authorities. I keep calling from my work phone, and it just goes to his voicemail. :-(

I just emailed current highest bidder this ^^ thread. Muhaha


I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

Originally posted by tim97rs
i bet Mcubed45 would say thats the best most, awesomest kit ever created... and defend the guy selling it...:wary

omg lol. Tim, dont leak that virus of a locked thread over to this one please. Leave Thomas knight's brother alone.

i sent this to every one who bid on it so far:

the turbo kit you are bidding on is a scam!!!!!
please see this thread on 2gnt.com about this kit and seller:
http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=89436&mesg_id=89436&page=

Originally posted by tim97rs
i sent this to every one who bid on it so far: the turbo kit you are bidding on is a scam!!!!! please see this thread on 2gnt.com about this kit and seller: http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=89436&mesg_id=89436&page=

Yeah i got an email back from a guy that had bid 900 mf bucks, saying he appreciated the heads up.

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

FUCKIN SWEET!!!!!! since i sent out the e-mail warnings the auction went from $910.00 and 21 bids to $790.00 with 16 bids!!!!! i love this shit!}(

way to go guys, good to know we're keepin a look out for fucks who try to scam people

tru that at least this fuck tard will learn to scam a diff group than the 420Aer }(


I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

You guys are awesome doing something about that sh*t. :-)

I probably woulda fell for it had it been listed as a Star Stage 2.

Originally posted by CustomGS

Originally posted by tim97rs i bet Mcubed45 would say thats the best most, awesomest kit ever created... and defend the guy selling it...:wary

omg lol. Tim, dont leak that virus of a locked thread over to this one please. Leave Thomas knight's brother alone.

Dont want to say i told ya so...

BTW- Ebay better ban this mother f***er.

Originally posted by tim97rs
i bet Mcubed45 would say thats the best most, awesomest kit ever created... and defend the guy selling it...:wary

oh timmy don't be mad that DINO agreed with me on the CI kit. i can understand that you're still bitter about that but please keep it out of other threads. or are you now claiming that dino is an idiot as well? :rolleyes

and no i would not support this kit. if you're still having trouble understanding the CI thread please ask dino instead. i'm tired of trying to explain things to you.

Originally posted by MCubed45

Originally posted by tim97rs i bet Mcubed45 would say thats the best most, awesomest kit ever created... and defend the guy selling it...:wary

oh timmy don't be mad that DINO agreed with me on the CI kit. i can understand that you're still bitter about that but please keep it out of other threads. or are you now claiming that dino is an idiot as well? :rolleyes and no i would not support this kit. if you're still having trouble understanding the CI thread please ask dino instead. i'm tired of trying to explain things to you.

Um... Mcubed lay off the meth, I read what dino wrote and in no way was there a reference of him agreeing with you, just that for the money and for a few lbs of booste blah blah we all know what was said, Don't be gay, you have explained nothing and only stated opinion.

You made 1 order from CI 8 months ago and now have decided to swing from there wal-mart flunking ass's in hopes for better parts and or customer service/better shipping times. If you haven't ordered their turbo kit and have it on your car or any turbo kit for that matter why in the world does your opinion about what kit is great really matter. The point of the crusade so to say with CI has gone way over your head I guess.

Jeeeze dude there is a point at which one crosses a line from being taken seriously and just being a complete ass. You should consider looking into fact and stand with your 2gnt brothers when areas of a business looking to hawk money from fellow members is questionable. Heres some :rolleyes

I agree, i havent found where Dino agreed with anything.

Get back on topic fellas this is gettin silly :nono

Not to be an ass but this discussion was about an ebay scam. Tim and I (as well as many others Im sure) have linked potential 420a tuners straight to this thread. Lets not show these new people how imature we can be until they see how smart we are first.

Edit: for typos

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

i wasn't the one who brought this back up btw.


all i was saying was that the kit was worth the money for what was asked. dino said the same thing. tim spent the entire thread (as well as many previous threads) trashing the kit and going off about how no one should spend money on it and how "everything's gonna be screwed up" i tried to explain numerous times that for the money CI was asking it wasn't that bad of a deal, that people were being a tad overly critical of the product, and that CI has treated me with exceptionally customer service in the past (something VERY uncommon in this day and age). dino stepped in and said he thought it was worth it as well and for some reason tim suddenly shutup. go figure. personally i'd much rather folow dino's advice than someone like tim.

Originally posted by tim97rs
let it go man, CI's kit is questionable at best and total crap at worst. I and almost 23 other peoples posts share the same opinion about it. Don't be chastising "certain memebers on this sight" for being truthful... and right. no matter how much crap you think we are slinging or trash talking we do about CI... at the end of the day we are still right becuse you or CI have yet to prove us wrong... im done.

Originally posted by DarkOne
For the price, it seems worth it. I dislike the large offset on the manifold and the choice of turbo, but if all you want is a few lbs of boost for an extra kick in your daily driver, then none of that is a big deal.

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

Originally posted by hs_elrod

a little off topic, haha

edit: misspellings

Back on topic, i made my point, Mcubed45 made his...so progress we shall.

everyone here needs to email who ever bids about the seller so we can shut this guy down. its kinda fun...:)

Originally posted by tim97rs
Back on topic, i made my point, Mcubed45 made his...so progress we shall. everyone here needs to email who ever bids about the seller so we can shut this guy down. its kinda fun...:)

hell yeah

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

hahaha the auction ended with 0 bids! so now he relisted it and is trying again, lets keep an eye on it and make sure to email the bidders, you're right this is fun!

Originally posted by BlackMagic
hahaha the auction ended with 0 bids! so now he relisted it and is trying again, lets keep an eye on it and make sure to email the bidders, you're right this is fun!

I'm thinking that since last time we emailed everyone on the bid list (some of whom had 0 feedback as well) that mr. scamm artist is wise to this thread. The bidding is private on this auction so there wont be anymore warning people.

PiKapp504,
Any word?

Perhaps we need some sort written verification from Star that verifies that is is false?

Edit: will those who has seem this scam previously please post details? Perhaps even former user names?

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

I gaurantee you I could get this kit for free if I won the auction :)

can we all leave him bad feedback, maybe that will shy people away

edit: i forgot you can't leave a comment unless your a buyer or seller of the transaction, damnit

somebody who doesn't use or care about ebay (or has a less than stellar rating) should bid some rediculous amount like $69,429...

Good Idea ^^

I really wonder what else this guy is scamming. If he is scamming 420a turbo kit God only knows what else he is scamming.

I've been harassing this guy alot (calling like 3 times a day) and he told me he was on the phone with someone else selling a type R motor. He is prob. scamming tuner parts like no tomorrow.

for real lets shut this f@#ker down! lol is there somewhere that we can all report him? the guy you say you know that works at ebay have you got with him? I e-mailed him telling him if he didn't shut it down I was gonna report him to Ebay and the FBI LOL I hate little s@$theads like him they give honest reliable sellers like me a bad name. If I didn't have a good feedback score I would deff. high ball him and not pay then leave neg. feedback lets get this guy.

Fuck I want get this fucktard.

I figure since I cant stop fixing the damn thing, I'll just create more problems to work on. :) The stock pile has begun. Parts PArts PARts PARTs PARTS!!!
I'm a novice listen to what I say and make your own conclusion. If I'm wrong tell me and I will learn. Thanks be to the 2gnt Gods may they grant me turbo and fruits of the Earth. Amen.

anybody have real pics of what a star stage 3 kit looks like along with contact into to the Star company? I can e-mail the contact info along with proper pics to eBay

as far as i know there is no star stage 3, just stage 2, i mean really look at those "intercooler" pipes, theyre just u bends, theres no way that could fit

his "star stage 3"




real star stage 2



theres a pic of the stage 2, notice how EVERYTHING looks different.

ok everyone go to http://pages.ebay.com/help/contact_us/_base/index.html then select report a listing policy violation, then select Fradulant listings, then select report a listing you think is fradulant, then on the next page click e-mail right below where it says customer support options then enter the item #8000353901 and then leave your coments in the next box. If we can get enough reports on his listing maybe we can get him banned. Thanks Guys

Not for nothing, but does anyone see the resemblance between that manifold and ssautochromes 4g63 setup, it looks like their kinda "flare". I know they don't do the 420a kit anymore and I don't have any pics of the ones that were posted here about a year ago, but it sure does look like there work. Anybody remember the dude who bought that kit and the turbo crapped out after 5 miles?
http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1359

here is what i wrote feel free to use parts of it to help write your message:

This item is clearly fradulant it shows an item that he claims is a Star Stage 3 turbo kit, for starters this kit does not exist they only make a stage 1 and 2 kit. Please check out these pics the first is what he claims is the kit the SECOND pic is the REAL kit you can check this out by visiting http://www.turbokits.com/eclipse_turbo_kits.html ok here is the picture of the first kit the one he CLAIMS is the SAME as the SECOND this is the REAL kit that is CLEARLY totally different Please do not let this thief to continue to steal money from your users.

Actually, everyone should use the report button in the auction. If Ebay gets a load of scam warnings then it should take them serious. This site is the best reource for the pictures of the actual kit. hell i think i have most of my install picts but thy are in film not on my laptop.

Yo terry :)

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Oh yeah before anyone asks why I was bidding I bid $15 so that I could get his contact information.

Originally posted by EvuLFleA
Oh yeah before anyone asks why I was bidding I bid $15 so that I could get his contact information.

Way to rule ASS yet again Jeff :thumbsup

where is the kit? i see it on the listings, but when i click on it, it says "invalid item". I wanna harrass him too..;-)

edit: nevermind, saw ^^^ post

haha way to go i didn't think about bidding on the item

alright awesome way to go!

Jeff your knowledge of Ebay's inner workings never stops amazing me! Keep up the good work brotha.

lol that's awesome :thumbsup

WE WIN!!

Originally posted by MCubed45
lol that's awesome :thumbsup

x50 !