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88648, Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Aug-12-05 10:17 PM
For those of you turbo'd and have dyno'd your car. Can you post some info on the power you put down. And if possible some print outs. I myself am curious of true power coming from the cars on this board. Not just ohh I have a Stage 3 with a built motor boosting 16lbs.. I want to hear real figures, what kind of power does the bitch really put to the wheels.
88649, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by baxsom, Aug-12-05 11:25 PM
a lot of people have put info up
but to save you the hassle of searching

at 7.5 psi
and running rich as hell i put down
222whp and 219fp's of torque
that was using the craptech regualtor from hahn

decent fuel management to lean it out a little would put more down

check out siueclipse he is putting down well over 300
with the portfueler system
88657, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by tim97rs, Aug-13-05 06:24 AM
16 psi
11.2AFR,(ish)
3rd gear pull
heat soaked IC

292 whp
280 tq
with room for more...
88666, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by siueclipse, Aug-13-05 09:53 AM
This is with HRC's default map which needs some tuning.
21 lbs of boost

88676, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Semperboost, Aug-13-05 03:31 PM
Originally posted by siueclipse
This is with HRC's default map which needs some tuning. 21 lbs of boost


That kinda make me happy in pants

Alvin

http://www.cardomain.com/id/96rst
88678, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Aug-13-05 06:06 PM
I am hoping that the numbers can go much higher for you James. I am influenced to go turbo after I get out of boot camp and the car is sitting for a awhile in the winter. I am tired of being shitted on for having a slow car but looking good.
88688, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Avenger, Aug-14-05 04:33 AM
:D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup
88691, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by onetrav, Aug-14-05 09:15 AM
Originally posted by Avenger
:D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup


Holy crap....

88694, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by siueclipse, Aug-14-05 12:17 PM
Then at least I know where Im heading. Thanx Avenger.
89325, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by CustomGS, Sep-07-05 12:22 PM
Originally posted by onetrav
Originally posted by Avenger :D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup
Holy crap....


Yeah, In my pants after reading that! :thumbsup
88695, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by freddy_00_69, Aug-14-05 12:18 PM
Originally posted by Avenger
:D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup


Damn, nice numbers. What injectors are you running. Also, what is your setup with the super 20G. Makes me happy seeing them numbers, i hope i get there one day.
88696, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Aug-14-05 12:25 PM
Yea I am deffintley happy now that we can get to close to 400whp. Is that portfueler pretty much idiot proof or do you really need to tune that thing good.
88698, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by 96rs-t, Aug-14-05 12:51 PM
Avenger, what setup are you running, cuz DAMN is all i can say about that power. Almost 400hp to the f'ing wheels!! that's damn impressive. Damn i need to rebuild!!
88700, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Avenger, Aug-14-05 01:58 PM
I can post more details later (having way too much fun at the shootout). There's obviously alot of work done to the car. Bottom end, head, cams, big turbo, etc. But the key is in the tuning ... and I had the best person on the face of the planet in terms of 420a knowledge tune it. And I love it! To freaking death!
88701, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by BlackMagic, Aug-14-05 02:22 PM
well that gives me hope! thats what i'll be aiming for. I'm guessing bill hahn tuned your car? And that was only at 22 psi? Wow thats awesome, congrats! you just made my night...
88736, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by BumpinTalon, Aug-15-05 08:31 AM
Originally posted by BlackMagic
well that gives me hope! thats what i'll be aiming for. I'm guessing bill hahn tuned your car? And that was only at 22 psi? Wow thats awesome, congrats! you just made my night...


Thura is a notorious tuner of the 420A motor :). He probably tuned it himself.
88702, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by 96rs-t, Aug-14-05 02:23 PM
Originally posted by Avenger
But the key is in the tuning ... and I had the best person on the face of the planet in terms of 420a knowledge tune it. And I love it! To freaking death!


Bill Hahn?

88710, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by tim97rs, Aug-14-05 03:46 PM
hows the "driveability" at 392whp?
88731, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Tommyboy, Aug-15-05 07:02 AM
which turbo is bigger the S20g or the t3t4 turbo 57 trim? just curious because i might be buying the portfueler and want to see if the power levels would be kinda of close to james. I have the Star kit boosting 15psi daily on pump gas with 440s on 91 octane and no msd. Damm the GT series turbos are so tempting right now. Can anyone tell me how far boost level wise can i take my 440 cc injectors. I'm thinking maybe 20 to 22 psi max on race fuel only since i don;t have a msd?
88735, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Aug-15-05 08:18 AM
Originally posted by Avenger
I can post more details later (having way too much fun at the shootout). There's obviously alot of work done to the car. Bottom end, head, cams, big turbo, etc. But the key is in the tuning ... and I had the best person on the face of the planet in terms of 420a knowledge tune it. And I love it! To freaking death!




You can actually get close to 500whp according to hahn's site rite? Since you have the 20G. I'm hoping within the next year or two I can build and boost. Sooo Excited
88738, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by onetrav, Aug-15-05 09:17 AM
I really love this post. So, avenger, really, how is it as far as drivability?
88740, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Kirby, Aug-15-05 09:34 AM
I have not driven tura's car but I saw it drive at the S/O looked very drivable as it pulled away down RT 250, and only a tiny wisp of smoke out the tail pipe, not like my black tornado cloud if i get into boost too fast. Oh well I need to tune my bitch, where is Lee with my damn squirt... (Do not answer this question)
88745, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by totaleklipse97, Aug-15-05 01:52 PM
Don't mean to speak for T, but ya bill tuned his car and it's driveability was enough to drive from Hahn's place in IL. To Norwalk,OH and then down to TX (in route). So how's that for reliability.
88747, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by DSMRoadster, Aug-15-05 02:25 PM
We all know what happens when Thura tunes right Dino?
88750, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by siueclipse, Aug-15-05 04:09 PM
My car is going to HRC in late September. I can't wait.
88754, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by Avenger, Aug-15-05 06:11 PM
The driveability is great. The car's designed and tuned for top end power. That pretty much translates to great around the town driving staying out of boost but go past 4k rpms and look out. I don't have my dyno sheet in front of me but power peaks around 6000 and plateaus till redline. It's a very interesting power and torque curve. I don't make alot of power until after 4000 rpms. Makes it easy to handle. Pretty much what I wanted exactly.
89234, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by siueclipse, Sep-05-05 07:54 AM
Originally posted by Avenger
:D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup


I was wondering if I could get a copy of your portfueler map. I have almost the identical setup as you and I run rich as hell. HRC keeps pushing back my date to get tuned and I wanted to test out your map. Would you send me a copy of it?

James Mayer
89308, RE: Turbo Dyno Numbers
Posted by siueclipse, Sep-07-05 10:26 AM
Originally posted by siueclipse
Originally posted by Avenger :D I made 392whp and 372lb-ft on 22psi. S20G-H and a portfueler. :thumbsup
I was wondering if I could get a copy of your portfueler map. I have almost the identical setup as you and I run rich as hell. HRC keeps pushing back my date to get tuned and I wanted to test out your map. Would you send me a copy of it? James Mayer


88790, Since you asked for it ...
Posted by Avenger, Aug-17-05 08:32 AM


I know. Not the greatest pic but you get the idea. This is on 22-23psi on race gas. The car is currently running 17psi on 93 octane and is still ridiculously fast. MUCH faster than it's last iteration.

As you can see from the dyno sheet the power band has been shifted to the upper RPM band. This isn't a problem for me (actually what I wanted) and makes it much easier to handle around town and for long trips. One tank on the way back to Texas from Norwalk, it got 34MPG!!!! Not too shabby. I make full boost somewhere between 4000-4500 rpms in case you're wondering.

Mods on the car ... there's a ton but just some things of note for the motor. JE 8.8:1 w/ .040" overbore, Eagle rods, street ported head by Eddie Fiero, Crower stage 2 cams (the first revision), AEM cam gears (though they are just used to adjust cam timing a bit), HRC port fueler w/ 500 or 550cc/min secondaries, S20-G, HRC 3" DP, 3" test pipe, Apex'i 3" N1, Crane ignition amp.

As for the power it makes. I have a suspicion there are a few people out there that have made more power than this on a 420a (I know of at least 2 and I don't think they frequent the board) so this isn't that huge a deal (it is for me but not in the big scheme of things).

What's next ... who knows. I'm glad to have the car back and running well. The interior is in shambles and needs some work. I need some track time to get ready for the next shootout. I'm also on the hunt for a BOV that sounds like a woman having an orgasm (or a girlfriend that gets off everytime I shift gears :-o)! :D
88791, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by normajean, Aug-17-05 09:05 AM
I'm also on the hunt for a BOV that sounds like a woman having an orgasm (or a girlfriend that gets off everytime I shift gears :-o)! :D

Female orgasm bov you say? easy. you take this fake bov



then record your girl and there ya go :thumbsup hahahahahah
88792, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by Avenger, Aug-17-05 09:09 AM
Originally posted by normajean
I'm also on the hunt for a BOV that sounds like a woman having an orgasm (or a girlfriend that gets off everytime I shift gears :-o)! :D
Female orgasm bov you say? easy. you take this fake bov then record your girl and there ya go :thumbsup hahahahahah


That is wrong on so many levels. Fake blow off valve ... just as bad as a girl having to have a fake orgasm because you can't satisfy her in bed.

88793, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by normajean, Aug-17-05 09:39 AM
hahhaha
88797, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by BlackMagic, Aug-17-05 12:43 PM
Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by normajean
I'm also on the hunt for a BOV that sounds like a woman having an orgasm (or a girlfriend that gets off everytime I shift gears :-o)! :D
Female orgasm bov you say? easy. you take this fake bov then record your girl and there ya go :thumbsup hahahahahah
That is wrong on so many levels. Fake blow off valve ... just as bad as a girl having to have a fake orgasm because you can't satisfy her in bed.


lol thats hillarious, anyways, are you using an lsd yet/any upgraded axles? oh and let me know if you ever find one that sounds like a woman having an orgasm, because that would be AWESOME. lol i saw this video of a guy who taped a turkey call to his blow-off valve so it would make a turkey sound whenever he shifted, kinda funny, but not really...
88800, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by Avenger, Aug-17-05 09:26 PM
Originally posted by BlackMagic
lol thats hillarious, anyways, are you using an lsd yet/any upgraded axles?


quaife and fidanza axles. We'll see how they hold up at the track in a few weeks.

88802, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, Aug-17-05 10:25 PM
Originally posted by BlackMagic
Originally posted by Avenger
Originally posted by normajean
I'm also on the hunt for a BOV that sounds like a woman having an orgasm (or a girlfriend that gets off everytime I shift gears :-o)! :D
Female orgasm bov you say? easy. you take this fake bov then record your girl and there ya go :thumbsup hahahahahah
That is wrong on so many levels. Fake blow off valve ... just as bad as a girl having to have a fake orgasm because you can't satisfy her in bed.
lol thats hillarious, anyways, are you using an lsd yet/any upgraded axles? oh and let me know if you ever find one that sounds like a woman having an orgasm, because that would be AWESOME. lol i saw this video of a guy who taped a turkey call to his blow-off valve so it would make a turkey sound whenever he shifted, kinda funny, but not really...


Very sad but I have seen that video and know exactly what you are talking about.

89240, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by SilverBullet20g, Sep-05-05 12:55 PM
Congrats Thura! Nice numbers!
89242, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by HadesOmega, Sep-05-05 01:19 PM


sigh once upon a time seems so far now :(
89258, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by customrsturbo, Sep-06-05 07:19 AM
I haven't done any dyno runs, but i'm running consistent 13's if this helps. My best run been 13.0 @ 108 last saturday with 2.0 sec in the 60 feet. SC-61 @ 23psi, 8-injector set-up, 93octane and Lucas fuel additive, 225/45/17 drag radials.
89275, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by Dualgen2, Sep-06-05 05:42 PM
Sorta changing the subject but has anyone broken 400WHP besides Armond's Avenger? I have been outta the loop since I sold my 2gnt but I saw Armonds car in person (at least 4 years ago) and it seemed like it was very driveable. Does he still have that car? Does Murix still have his? O memories of the good ol' days. It's great to see how your cars have progressed over the years.
-Dave
89281, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by cs82685, Sep-06-05 09:12 PM
that disappoints me i mean 23psi... i would think would be faster than that
89295, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by customrsturbo, Sep-07-05 06:44 AM
What is your best run? If I can ask.
89297, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by BumpinTalon, Sep-07-05 07:23 AM
Originally posted by cs82685
that disappoints me i mean 23psi... i would think would be faster than that


have you ever tried getting good traction in a very powerful front wheel drive? my buddy's car can trap over 120mph but has trouble running 13 flat because it spins through first, the top of second, and a bit of third
89309, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by Blizare, Sep-07-05 10:34 AM
I wonder what I'll roll after I finish installing everything tonight.

I have a 325i, a silvia, a non turbo fairlady and a GT-Four celica to race :)
89327, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by BumpinTalon, Sep-07-05 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Blizare
I wonder what I'll roll after I finish installing everything tonight. I have a 325i, a silvia, a non turbo fairlady and a GT-Four celica to race :)


putting the turbo in tonight? hmm I will see you at Race City on friday night ;) even though my car boosts only 1psi because I have no wastegate. I'll need to finish my exhaust before I race though, they don't like open downpipes.. but I will be there.
89317, RE: Since you asked for it ...
Posted by BlackMagic, Sep-07-05 11:53 AM
Originally posted by cs82685
that disappoints me i mean 23psi... i would think would be faster than that


the turbo's not thatttt big, i've got one too, it's more of a medium sized turbo, those are good numbers for 23 psi for that turbo. If it was like a super25g then yea maybe it should be faster, but for that, it's excellent