Some people asked me to take some pictures of my dual circuit oil cooler when I had a chance, so here they are.

I run a dual circuit. One feeds the turbo and one feeds the block. I also have a remote oil filter mounted just behind the bumper on the passenger side.

your car is badass man! clean, powerful, and sexy.

I don't get it. Why waste the money and engineering time plumbing a dual core just to have one side of it feed the turbo?

Originally posted by DarkOne
I don't get it. Why waste the money and engineering time plumbing a dual core just to have one side of it feed the turbo?

One side feeds the turbo and the other feeds the block. I wanted to cool oil in two different locations to help the entire system. Not only does the dual circuit cool both areas, but the remote oil filter cools the system as well. Its all about how cold can you make your oil.

Originally posted by siueclipse
Its all about how cold can you make your oil.

Now DEI will probably release a CO2 charged cryogenic oil cooler at SEMA. I think "CryOil" has a nice ring to it.

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haha.. damn that would be cold

Originally posted by siueclipse

Originally posted by DarkOne I don't get it. Why waste the money and engineering time plumbing a dual core just to have one side of it feed the turbo?

One side feeds the turbo and the other feeds the block. I wanted to cool oil in two different locations to help the entire system. Not only does the dual circuit cool both areas, but the remote oil filter cools the system as well. Its all about how cold can you make your oil.

as long as it doesn't get below 150* , do you have an oil temp hooked up? what's the reading?

dont remember off hand what my temps are. it does take awhile to get the oil to warm up thought. ill look tonight when i drive it.

Originally posted by siueclipse
Its all about how cold can you make your oil.

Those who know are laughing at this.

Tell me why having cold oil is no good?

Originally posted by siueclipse
Tell me why having cold oil is no good?

"Oil prefers to operate in a given temperature range that supplies the viscosity needs for protecting the engine, doesn't overheat the oil on the high end and, when cool, doesn't add more drag to the system than necessary."
"It needs to be understood that oil temperatures below the minimums will degrade druability as surely as exceeding the maximums."
-Corky Bell
(I love this book)

Interesting.

So what are the temps?

Originally posted by 96rs-t
your car is badass man! clean, powerful, and sexy.

Thank you

Looks nice, i also see an oil filter relocation kit on there?

yup

If I remember correctly, as the one guy ^^^ already stated, nothing below 150 and no higher than 260. I could be wrong on the top end number ... but I think remember having a discussion with a mechanic a while ago and he was saying oil loses it's viscosity above 260.

(sorry, thought of a question) Siue - did you custom design the remote filter or did you purchase it somewhere. I'd love to see a shot from under the car the shows how you did it and mounted it.

Ill take some more pictures. I basically bought different pieces and fab'ed it together.

Your brave running rubber oil lines IMO.

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Originally posted by extreme97nt
Your brave running rubber oil lines IMO. best time so far 14.3 @ 101.1mph(no traction) www.cnnmotorsports.com

been running rubber lines for like more than 2 years now and no problems

Originally posted by techboy
(sorry, thought of a question) Siue - did you custom design the remote filter or did you purchase it somewhere. I'd love to see a shot from under the car the shows how you did it and mounted it.

yea its 270* for synthetic, 240* for regular, but i'm sure he runs synthetic

Its an interesting setup. It would be more effective if you could take it out from behind the intercooler and also not block the radiator. Many people mount these to the side in the place of the smic. As someone mentioned earlier it would be better to use stainless lines especially since the lines are running through a metal hole.

I haven't had any problems with the lines. This hasb een together for about 6 months now.

My oil temps are at 150 degrees.

it's not bad to be at the very minimum operating temp? :shrug

"its all about how cold the oil is"

HAHAH!

get an education.

Yeah, throw some ice in your oil pan. ;)

Can you two be an more of asses?

Yea they probably could :P

But yes, Oil is most useful at an operating temp of 150*. High heat brakes down the oil faster than anything else so I don't see a problem with running that particular cooler. Go for a long ass 3rd,4th,5th gear pull full boost and see what your temps get up to. or do it twice and see if theres is much difference.

I just don't like hose clamps on pressurized rubber lines. I get up to 75-80psi at WOT and i don't know ho long i would trust them James. :shrug

Ive had those lines on there for a long time now without any problems.

It might look like rubber hose, but its not. Its high pressure hose from Napa.

Not only do I have two clamps on each connection, but there is also this brown goo'y shit on the connection which hardens to ensure its sealed.

Sure, I could be a bit more assy. Would you prefer that? :D

I'm just doing what I do best - breakin' balls.

Originally posted by siueclipse
Ive had those lines on there for a long time now without any problems. It might look like rubber hose, but its not. Its high pressure hose from Napa.

OIC. well sounds like your good to go then :)

Originally posted by Blizare
I just don't like hose clamps on pressurized rubber lines. I get up to 75-80psi at WOT and i don't know ho long i would trust them James. :shrug

why? the lines are specifically made to withstand those pressures. the only problem you might see is IF something were to hit them, they can cut...and leak out oil, but theyre protected and hiding pretty well so i personally dont think this is a problem.

"High heat brakes down the oil faster than anything else "

thats not true. sorry, try again.

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by Blizare I just don't like hose clamps on pressurized rubber lines. I get up to 75-80psi at WOT and i don't know ho long i would trust them James. :shrug

why? the lines are specifically made to withstand those pressures. the only problem you might see is IF something were to hit them, they can cut...and leak out oil, but theyre protected and hiding pretty well so i personally dont think this is a problem. "High heat brakes down the oil faster than anything else " thats not true. sorry, try again.

so you are saying that cooking your oil is not so bad after all? uhhh yeah, sure. You've been a dumbass lately - what happened to you?

Originally posted by BumpinTalon
You've been a dumbass lately - what happened to you?

LOL. Classic.

Originally posted by BumpinTalon
so you are saying that cooking your oil is not so bad after all?

absolutely not, and i never said that.

combustion gas and crankcase gas break down and comprimise the oils ability to lubricate the internal parts of the engine. why do you think oil turns BLACK, dumbass? contamination, in other words...is really the reason you have to do oil changes. with the technology of oils these days, they dont breakdown nearly as easy as they used to and can withstand some pretty high oil temperatures (which is obviously not a problem in the case of siu)

my reply was about rubber lines, not "cooking oil".

edited because my initial reply was mean as fuck.

Originally posted by turbo8u

Originally posted by BumpinTalon so you are saying that cooking your oil is not so bad after all?

absolutely not, and i never said that. combustion gas and crankcase gas break down and comprimise the oils ability to lubricate the internal parts of the engine. why do you think oil turns BLACK, dumbass? contamination, in other words...is really the reason you have to do oil changes. with the technology of oils these days, they dont breakdown nearly as easy as they used to and can withstand some pretty high oil temperatures (which is obviously not a problem in the case of siu) my reply was about rubber lines, not "cooking oil". edited because my initial reply was mean as fuck.

ok ass. :shrug

Then apparently he (along with most everybody else) misunderstood this:

Originally posted by turbo8u
"High heat brakes down the oil faster than anything else " thats not true. sorry, try again.

I do agree with you, though, that contamination is really bad for oil. I would be willing to bet that the oil cooler isn't all that beneficial, at least if James changes his oil in a sane interval.

I change my oil every 2000 miles. Sometimes more frequent depending on if Im racing or not.

BTW.. When my car is fully warm, in 100 degree summer heat, my oil temps are baring 150 degrees.