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85749, Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-08-05 06:56 PM
Well for those who didnt see it in my other thread, heres a link to my Custom turbo kit assembly and install write up. all in all cost me less then $1000. let me know what you think, and any pointers you might have. :thumbsup

ya ya its on tuners, deal with it. http://dsmtuners.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181134
85750, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by tim97rs, May-08-05 07:29 PM
shit! For a grand...nice job! and nice write up!
that should be stickyed somewhere!!!!
85751, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by DSMRoadster, May-08-05 07:40 PM
send it to Dino so he can add it to the modifications section.
85756, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-09-05 04:08 AM
Thanks guys :thumbsup

Ill PM dino with the link to see if he would want to do that. thanks for the comments, keep the comments/opinions coming coming.
85757, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by totaleklipse97, May-09-05 06:19 AM
Hey nice job there for piecing one together. Just show with some ingenuity and know-how you can do ALOT. How's the tuning process going?
85759, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-09-05 07:07 AM
Originally posted by totaleklipse97
Hey nice job there for piecing one together. Just show with some ingenuity and know-how you can do ALOT. How's the tuning process going?


Tuning?? :shrug lol jk. right now ive got the s-afc set to 0% correction, and since im running the same fuel set-up as the star kit, tuning isnt a NECESSITY right now. im gonna get a wide band and bigger injectors and tune it with the s-afc until i get my MSnS. but since im only running 3-4 psi right now, im fine. once i get the intercooler hooked up im gonna crank her up to 7-8 and tune her there.

keep it coming guys
85762, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by PowerEclipses, May-09-05 07:12 AM
nice job man! lil sketchy on that IC piping haha, but im sure you will make something better later on
85763, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by djtrickee, May-09-05 07:18 AM
I like it. There is much joy in piecing something together and seeing it actually work. Congratu-fucking-lations, you are now doomed like the rest of us to chase that boost dragon for just a little more.
85764, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-09-05 08:01 AM
Originally posted by PowerEclipses
nice job man! lil sketchy on that IC piping haha, but im sure you will make something better later on


yes those charge pipes are completely temporary, because i have an smic bolted on, i just have to make the piping. does anyone know where i can get Mandre 2" ID u bends?

Originally posted by djtrickeeI like it. There is much joy in piecing something together and seeing it actually work. Congratu-fucking-lations, you are now doomed like the rest of us to chase that boost dragon for just a little more.


Haha yep i hear ya. i made my own boost controller the other night so i can raise the boost when the IC gets hooked up.

thanks guys. let me know if anything is unclear in the write up or whatever else you want to say
85767, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by onetrav, May-09-05 08:43 AM
Nice man. Very creative. I pieced mine together as well but I also upgraded everything along they way and it cost me a little more! LOL. Good job man. I built my manifold almost EXACTLY the same way but I used a little bigger pipe and my turbo flange is in the middle.
85796, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by pr0, May-09-05 05:39 PM
Now I can build a custom kit for my next project :D
85797, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by cs82685, May-09-05 06:01 PM
great write up you just saved me from a lot of searching on the fmu, also thanks for the info about setting up the fuel system ahead of time in response to my post
85798, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-09-05 06:24 PM
Im glad i could help. thats why i did the write up, to show an alternative to expensive kits and to help out those who have already decided to make a custom one.

keep the comments coming!

thanks guys
85800, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by ScreaminE, May-09-05 06:33 PM
Nice job my friend

Very proud of you, when you first talked about building a custom kit I thought you were full of poo but you def. proved me wrong!

I hope when I get my intercooler Piping custom made at the muffler shop I can take some pics and give some info on how I made it all fit.

I myself have only spent 500 dollars and still have 500 more to spend to complete my kit...in due time
85799, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by Ducking_Fumbass, May-09-05 06:31 PM
A couple of things... those rubber HD Racing (Home Depot) couplers absolutely do not like seeing positive pressure (they are meant for water drainage). Secondly, there is a disclaimer on OptimusPeterson's website that the HRC directions are not to be viewed by anybody who has not bought an HRC kit. It's one thing that you read them, it's another thing to link to it.

I would just hate to see those directions taken down because of abuse. They are vastly helpful to people who are actually installing an HRC kit. The expense that you mentioned that is associated with buying a kit, well, a lot of it is the expertise that is being paid for. HRC pioneered this kit, and made a good product. Those directions were made at their expense.

That being said, nice innovative way of turbocharging a 420a.

EDIT: http://home.bendcable.com/optimuspeterson/disclaimer.htm See what page you get when you click "yes."
85805, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 03:38 AM
Originally posted by Ducking_Fumbass
A couple of things... those rubber HD Racing (Home Depot) couplers absolutely do not like seeing positive pressure (they are meant for water drainage). Secondly, there is a disclaimer on OptimusPeterson's website that the HRC directions are not to be viewed by anybody who has not bought an HRC kit. It's one thing that you read them, it's another thing to link to it. I would just hate to see those directions taken down because of abuse. They are vastly helpful to people who are actually installing an HRC kit. The expense that you mentioned that is associated with buying a kit, well, a lot of it is the expertise that is being paid for. HRC pioneered this kit, and made a good product. Those directions were made at their expense. That being said, nice innovative way of turbocharging a 420a. EDIT: http://home.bendcable.com/optimuspeterson/disclaimer.htm See what page you get when you click "yes."


Ya i have houde the HD racing couplers dont like positive pressure, ive blown 4 of those elbows our already. i just gotta order some silicone couplers and make that elbow out of piping.

So, you thought i was full of poo eh? come on, how many times have i said i was going to do something and didnt follow through??? :rolleyes lol jk
85806, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-10-05 04:18 AM
Am I the only one that noticed this?

"This is where the dive is made. go to home depot and find a bolt/nut compbo that will fit to hold the turbo and manifold flange together. i could only fit 3 of the 4 bolts in the holes, but it seems to be working just fine."

You can't have a four bolt flange with only three bolts in there..It might work for a little bit but you need to get that fixed.
85807, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 04:20 AM
Originally posted by SilverBullet20g
Am I the only one that noticed this? "This is where the dive is made. go to home depot and find a bolt/nut compbo that will fit to hold the turbo and manifold flange together. i could only fit 3 of the 4 bolts in the holes, but it seems to be working just fine." You can't have a four bolt flange with only three bolts in there..It might work for a little bit but you need to get that fixed.


sure it works. its holding on perfectly fine with no gap or leak at all. hell DarkOne was telling people the 14b would bolt up to the stock manifold but you could only hold it on by 2 bolts. its working fine the way it is, so theres no need to fix something that isnt broken
85809, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-10-05 04:33 AM
Originally posted by GSGoinFast
Originally posted by SilverBullet20g Am I the only one that noticed this? "This is where the dive is made. go to home depot and find a bolt/nut compbo that will fit to hold the turbo and manifold flange together. i could only fit 3 of the 4 bolts in the holes, but it seems to be working just fine." You can't have a four bolt flange with only three bolts in there..It might work for a little bit but you need to get that fixed.
sure it works. its holding on perfectly fine with no gap or leak at all. hell DarkOne was telling people the 14b would bolt up to the stock manifold but you could only hold it on by 2 bolts. its working fine the way it is, so theres no need to fix something that isnt broken


I'm talking about long term. How many miles will it last, should be the question. Do you really think it will hold at 20psi at xxxxrpm? I'm not tring to diss your kit...
85810, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 04:44 AM
Originally posted by SilverBullet20g
Originally posted by GSGoinFast
Originally posted by SilverBullet20g Am I the only one that noticed this? "This is where the dive is made. go to home depot and find a bolt/nut compbo that will fit to hold the turbo and manifold flange together. i could only fit 3 of the 4 bolts in the holes, but it seems to be working just fine." You can't have a four bolt flange with only three bolts in there..It might work for a little bit but you need to get that fixed.
sure it works. its holding on perfectly fine with no gap or leak at all. hell DarkOne was telling people the 14b would bolt up to the stock manifold but you could only hold it on by 2 bolts. its working fine the way it is, so theres no need to fix something that isnt broken
I'm talking about long term. How many miles will it last, should be the question. Do you really think it will hold at 20psi at xxxxrpm? I'm not tring to diss your kit...


no i see what your saying. but a bolt wont fit there. there isnt enough clearence to get a bolt int here that is long enough to make it through the flange. the real question is when will i be running 20 psi? lol not very soon. hopefully a rebuild isnt too far off, but when i do rebuild ill be replacing this turbo anyways for a bigger T3/T4 or something of that nature.

85813, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by Keith2172, May-10-05 05:25 AM
Im glad you got it done, Im happy you did a write-up. When I first read this post I was excited for you, then I saw your write-up with the pics. DON'T EVER POP YOUR HOOD!!! That is one of the saddest things I have seen on a 2GNT, Im surprised you haven't popped your hoses yet. Pull off the entire kit until you can put real pipes on and not those rubber water hoses. I commend you for your effort and what you accomplished in 2 months time, but you should have spent 4 months on it. Im sorry this is such a negative response, I don't normally respond like this to someone who is putting forth an honest effort, I just believe you'll be a lot happier in the end if you put more time and MONEY into it.
85816, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 06:57 AM
Originally posted by Keith2172
Im glad you got it done, Im happy you did a write-up. When I first read this post I was excited for you, then I saw your write-up with the pics. DON'T EVER POP YOUR HOOD!!! That is one of the saddest things I have seen on a 2GNT, Im surprised you haven't popped your hoses yet. Pull off the entire kit until you can put real pipes on and not those rubber water hoses. I commend you for your effort and what you accomplished in 2 months time, but you should have spent 4 months on it. Im sorry this is such a negative response, I don't normally respond like this to someone who is putting forth an honest effort, I just believe you'll be a lot happier in the end if you put more time and MONEY into it.


what are you recommending be changed besides the intake piping, because if you read those are just temporary pipes until i weld up the IC pipes. and if you read, Ive popped 4 of them lol. those are just until i can get the U bends from summit and weld them up to connect the IC. The downpipe weld will look a lot better after today, because im taking it off, grinding it down and giving the Down pipe a nice hi temp painting. besides those 2 things, i dont see anything else that looks bad.

but its not what it looks like thats important, its how it works. this isnt a show car, this is all for performance. id much rather have a ugly functioning turbo kit then be running NA

EDIT: I just looked at the pics again and im really not sure how you can say that my engine bay is one of the saddast things you have seen on a 2gnt? the manifold looks a little shitty because that pic was taken just after i had taken the manifold off to make the block off plate, and i had re-sprayed it with copper. so on the header flange the copper hasnt burned all the way off yet, giving it that ugly brown/red color. otherwise i dont think it looks too bad at all. im not sure where you are getting this from. ehh whatever its not the finished project, i dont think it looks to bad and it is functioning quite well and thats all that really matters
85822, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by turbo8u, May-10-05 07:27 AM
dude i give you all the props in the world

just clean it up a little like u were saying, and that shit will look fabulous

props :thumbsup :cheers

welcome to boost-town....i'll be your host, my name is turby :+
85824, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 07:31 AM
Originally posted by turbo8u
dude i give you all the props in the world just clean it up a little like u were saying, and that shit will look fabulous props :thumbsup :cheers welcome to boost-town....i'll be your host, my name is turby :+


Thanks turb, your my turbocharged hero! :+

yep today is my day off so the thing will be cleaned up a bit tonight. ill post some pics in the write up after i grind and Paint the downpipe, and ill also paint the little piece of metal charge piping i have since that will still be used when i make the IC piping lol.

thanks a lot tho, keep it coming
85827, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by customrsturbo, May-10-05 08:05 AM
Great job!

For the IC piping go to summitracing.com and search for mandrel bend u-bends(SUM-622003) @ $16.95 each. That is what I used for my exhaust, ic piping and dump tube. They have from 1.75 to 3 inch mandrel bend aluminized pipe. After cutting and welding you can polish them. They start at around $12.00 to $20.00.
85832, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 09:30 AM
Originally posted by customrsturbo
Great job! For the IC piping go to summitracing.com and search for mandrel bend u-bends(SUM-622003) @ $16.95 each. That is what I used for my exhaust, ic piping and dump tube. They have from 1.75 to 3 inch mandrel bend aluminized pipe. After cutting and welding you can polish them. They start at around $12.00 to $20.00.


haha thanks i found that last night. its $11.75 for 2" u bends, just what i need. thanks.

keep shooting me your opinions/questions
85846, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by undisputed, May-10-05 04:12 PM
nice job on the install. just a random question how much psi does that fuel pump support? Will you have to swap it out to run 7 or 8 psi?
85847, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 04:34 PM
Originally posted by undisputed
nice job on the install. just a random question how much psi does that fuel pump support? Will you have to swap it out to run 7 or 8 psi?


swap out the walbro 255 HP? most definatly not. its a good pump, and capable of pretty decent numbers. i wont be able to run as mush boost with the stock injectors tho because the pressures will be getting way to high for the pump to keep up. but with some smaller injectors to relieve some pressure, i think its capable of some big numbers. not exactly sure on how big tho.
85849, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by cs82685, May-10-05 05:16 PM
" Ya i have houde the HD racing couplers dont like positive pressure, ive blown 4 of those elbows our already. i just gotta order some silicone couplers and make that elbow out of piping. So, you thought i was full of poo eh? come on, how many times have i said i was going to do something and didnt follow through??? :rolleyes lol jk
"

hey do you know where your gonna get the silicone couplers yet, i'm not exactly sure where to search for them, also, is the rubber elbow holding up ok b/c i was planning on just getting one of those to put attach the turbo to the intercooler piping, thanks for the help, once again great job
85850, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 05:29 PM
Originally posted by cs82685
"
Ya i have houde the HD racing couplers dont like positive pressure, ive blown 4 of those elbows our already. i just gotta order some silicone couplers and make that elbow out of piping. So, you thought i was full of poo eh? come on, how many times have i said i was going to do something and didnt follow through??? :rolleyes lol jk " hey do you know where your gonna get the silicone couplers yet, i'm not exactly sure where to search for them, also, is the rubber elbow holding up ok b/c i was planning on just getting one of those to put attach the turbo to the intercooler piping, thanks for the help, once again great job


lol by blown 4 of those i mean i actually blew holes in them, not just blew them off the turbo. there not holding up at all lol. i actually ordered my couplings off ebay tonight. 5 silicone red ones for like $25. i got them from a company on there called like hi temp silicone or something. just search silicone couplers and they will come up. i was gonna order a silicone elbow but there really expensive so i think i will just put a regular coupler on the end of the turbo, and put a bend piece of piping there.

On another note, i might have an alternative to the copper gasket spray. i went to autozone tonight to get that hi temp 1200 degree paint for my downpipe and they didnt have any. they had this paint called "Flame Proof" paint, said it was good from 1300 to 2000 degrees. it went on the downpipe real nice, i got the alluminum color and it looks just like the ceramic coating i see. it says ceramic coating on the bottle lol. i dunno just some food for thought
85853, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by 97grnRS, May-10-05 05:57 PM
i made my own kit too. every person i showed it too thinks its the crappiest turbo setup ever cause i used parts from everywhere to make it. but when i went to the track for the first time ever and put down a 14.3 on my second run they werent so quick to laugh then. i beat them all.. with some good traction ill easily be in the 13's with my home made kit. which aint bad for spending about 300 on the whole thing including my turbo.. all it takes is work.. brainpower and this site. ha. . it dont have to look pretty to be fast. thats my motto.
85856, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-10-05 07:11 PM
Originally posted by 97grnRS
i made my own kit too. every person i showed it too thinks its the crappiest turbo setup ever cause i used parts from everywhere to make it. but when i went to the track for the first time ever and put down a 14.3 on my second run they werent so quick to laugh then. i beat them all.. with some good traction ill easily be in the 13's with my home made kit. which aint bad for spending about 300 on the whole thing including my turbo.. all it takes is work.. brainpower and this site. ha. . it dont have to look pretty to be fast. thats my motto.


haha agreed! but to all those fashion police out there, check the write up agian, i have the new painted downpipe on the bottom of the write up
85857, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, May-10-05 10:19 PM
Nice writeup chris.......I dont see any install picts of the FCD!!!! What gives?

I see you did the welding yourself? Do yourself a favor and pick up a couple pieces of thick steel and practice on a weekend of creatign a bead and laying a nice weld. You will see how fast you clean up your welding with a couple hours of practice. Then you can go over your kit and slowly inprove. Exhaust pipe can be difficult when you are still learning..... If you pick up a pipe expander you can flare the out edge of one pipe to make the next pipe fit nicer, makes the welding easier when you are learning since you work the bead from one edge into the other. practice different wire speeds and heat ranges.

Overall...... Good job, nice to see the work you put into it and didnt give up.

Terry
85861, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-11-05 04:05 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Nice writeup chris.......I dont see any install picts of the FCD!!!! What gives? I see you did the welding yourself? Do yourself a favor and pick up a couple pieces of thick steel and practice on a weekend of creatign a bead and laying a nice weld. You will see how fast you clean up your welding with a couple hours of practice. Then you can go over your kit and slowly inprove. Exhaust pipe can be difficult when you are still learning..... If you pick up a pipe expander you can flare the out edge of one pipe to make the next pipe fit nicer, makes the welding easier when you are learning since you work the bead from one edge into the other. practice different wire speeds and heat ranges. Overall...... Good job, nice to see the work you put into it and didnt give up. Terry



haha ive been meaning to ask you if you wanted me to give your name out for the FCD. i didnt put it in the write-up incase you didnt want your name out for them. Ive also been getting people asking me where i got the FDC. Do you want me to give your name out?

Im actually really suprised how much my welding has improved over this project. the beeds i welded when i welded the collector on were perfect, but the top one i forgot to turn the argon on so i had to redo it and it doesnt look as good :wallbash but the bottom weld on the collector is PERFECT!! lol im proud of it. but the downpipe welds besides the middle one were all with no argon cuz we are out and my shop teacher wont order more until next year, so the welds are not clean at all. for the important welds(manifold, etc.) i take it to my dads work where hes got a super nice welder. but i cant really practice alot since i dont have a welder.

thanks for the opinions and pointers, keep them coming
85864, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by Keith2172, May-11-05 04:43 AM
Looks like the names out now HA! Are you going to weld the IC pipes yourself? If so be really careful with that, aluminum isn't as easy to weld as steel. Hit up some of the fabricators on this board for pointers (it's been so long since I welded anything I've almost forgotten how) and good luck on it. If I ever get to that point I think I'll just tack the IC pipes together and take them to a welder to have them professionally done :shrug
85873, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-11-05 06:51 AM
Originally posted by Keith2172
Looks like the names out now HA! Are you going to weld the IC pipes yourself? If so be really careful with that, aluminum isn't as easy to weld as steel. Hit up some of the fabricators on this board for pointers (it's been so long since I welded anything I've almost forgotten how) and good luck on it. If I ever get to that point I think I'll just tack the IC pipes together and take them to a welder to have them professionally done :shrug


well i got steel pipes, so they should be easier to weld. i might just line them up and tack them at school, then take it to my dads work to weld them since he will have argon x(
85880, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by eclipse_99rs, May-11-05 11:25 AM
WOW great job on the diy kit. For under a grand its pretty nice.
85899, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, May-11-05 07:31 PM
Originally posted by eclipse_99rs
WOW great job on the diy kit. For under a grand its pretty nice.


Yea you pretty much spelled that out. Thats ok anyone who wants one can just email me. I have plenty of materials to put them together. Stay away from Alum...you have a long way to go before you try tig welding.

Terry
85909, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by etx, May-12-05 07:52 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Stay away from Alum...you have a long way to go before you try tig welding. Terry


I was about to say the same thing. ;)
85923, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-12-05 11:22 AM
Originally posted by Star Turbo Talon
Originally posted by eclipse_99rs WOW great job on the diy kit. For under a grand its pretty nice.
Yea you pretty much spelled that out. Thats ok anyone who wants one can just email me. I have plenty of materials to put them together. Stay away from Alum...you have a long way to go before you try tig welding. Terry


:wallbash i apologize terry im stupid lol. sorry about that.

ya i know i definatly wont touch alluminum, i dont have a tig to use, nor would i know how lol. i got my 2" mandrel U bends from summit today, so im waiting for the couplers and i will be good to go.
85974, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by MetalJim, May-13-05 03:44 PM
Good job man :thumbsup


95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed
15.7 @ 87.9mph
Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html
85994, RE: Here's my custom stage 2 turbo kit for under $1000 write-up
Posted by pfmicks, May-13-05 08:35 PM
Originally posted by MetalJim
Good job man :thumbsup 95 Eclipse RS : 5 speed 15.7 @ 87.9mph Jeep TB writeup - http://www.dimensia.com:81/jimbo/JeepTBfor2gnt.html


agreed