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Topic subjectTurbo'd 420A @ 400hp
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85423, Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by DJ420a, Apr-30-05 08:30 PM
Has anybody done this yet? I was looking around on CarDomain and I came across this http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/810733/2 . Gimme your opinions on everything. I just wanna hear what you guys have to say about this. I tried to call his bluff the nicest way possible, cuz of course I could be wrong, lol.
85424, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by kain_99gs, Apr-30-05 09:40 PM
Why not? i think that the "Mobile Spec Battery Termimals" is what pushes it up the extra notch ;)
85425, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by eclipse_99rs, Apr-30-05 10:36 PM
I know DarkReality came close, before the 8 injector mod and new turbo he hit 356hp. But his car got stolen before he could go to the dyno.
85426, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by WickedESi, May-01-05 12:59 AM
I would imagine Bill Hahn's car is over 400...
85427, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-01-05 02:38 AM
Originally posted by DJ420a
Has anybody done this yet? I was looking around on CarDomain and I came across this http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/810733/2 . Gimme your opinions on everything. I just wanna hear what you guys have to say about this. I tried to call his bluff the nicest way possible, cuz of course I could be wrong, lol.




I think your right, it looks like he still has the Hahn POS Dowpipe that connects to the stocker...and the Craptech FPR

I had to search through 12 pages of rice...and I still couldn't find a dyno slip or a close up of the engine bay. :thumbsdown
85428, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by baxsom, May-01-05 03:30 AM
i dont think that 4 440cc injectors would be enough to get over 400

then again
maybe that NX Ntercooler works after all


more than likely he read what the 20g he says he has installed is capable of and just assumed

85429, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by grain, May-01-05 05:47 AM
eh... i didnt read anything, but id say he'd have a hard time getting 400whp with a rrfpr.
85431, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by DJ420a, May-01-05 06:10 AM
Thats weird!! The comment/paragraph I left lastnight, is gone. Are you able to delete unwanted comments? I didnt think you could, lol.
85432, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-01-05 06:20 AM
yea i agree, i don't think 440's with that fpr and that downpipe will put 411whp
85454, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by RxR_Eclipse, May-01-05 05:27 PM
That car has a lot of rice!
85455, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by kain_99gs, May-01-05 05:36 PM
on car domain you can delete unwanted comments. that is so the ricers can edit their guestbook and leave the couple good comments while they edit out the intelligent ones like "you suck" or "soy sauce".
85471, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by Aggression, May-02-05 06:00 AM
If you believe that, then you will believe that my riced out car puts down 402whp with the mod list I have below my sig!
85475, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by siueclipse, May-02-05 08:47 AM
In my coversations with people at HRC, they think I can get my car to the 400whp mark on pump gas after they tune everything.
85476, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-02-05 09:31 AM
yea on their site they say that theirs made 380fwhp with a stage 5 w/ portufueler and 3" turbo back exhaust, so it's definately doable, but not with what that guy has
85508, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by EclipseTenzoR, May-02-05 04:32 PM
Yo James! Then Tune Your Shit DUDE! Everything else is all finished rite? Tune That Motha!
85513, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by SaberKhan, May-02-05 05:21 PM
Originally posted by baxsom
i dont think that 4 440cc injectors would be enough to get over 400 then again maybe that NX Ntercooler works after all more than likely he read what the 20g he says he has installed is capable of and just assumed


440's would definitely be inadequate to make 400whp. You'll need injectors in the 660 range to safely pull that off. The NX Ntercooler setup would'nt make up for a lack of injector size, it would only make it worse. All the sprayer does is further chill the intake charge which makes it denser and more oxygen rich. This results in slightly more boost, and the necessity for more fuel. The only thing that will let you get away with big boost and too small an injector is race gas and water/alcohol injection.
85514, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by DJ420a, May-02-05 05:33 PM
Somebody should really send this guy this thread, lol.
85518, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by Sorry_i_Win, May-03-05 01:52 AM
i dunno if its legit or not but he did post a dyno chart. How can he be making only 283 ft/lbs of torque with 400+ Hp? here it is:



85520, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, May-03-05 02:34 AM
damn, that thing keeps on pulling past 8k. I don't know if it's legit or not, but with what he's got, it's kinda hard to believe
85521, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by baxsom, May-03-05 03:09 AM
give me a blank piece of paper and a marker and i can do 500hp
85522, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by a_miller_76, May-03-05 03:24 AM
Originally posted by Sorry_i_Win
i dunno if its legit or not but he did post a dyno chart. How can he be making only 283 ft/lbs of torque with 400+ Hp? here it is:


That's not a 2gnt dyno sheet. He would have hit the rev limiter at 7200 and he's not sporting a stand alone judging by the pics.
85523, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by baxsom, May-03-05 03:48 AM
he says that right now he is using an afc
85524, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by a_miller_76, May-03-05 03:52 AM
Originally posted by baxsom
he says that right now he is using an afc


I guess you mean AFX, but that still wont' take you to 9000. I thought it only went up to 8200.


That and he says he has a Howell 2.4 stroker and I thought for sure they only made a 2.2 stroker. I think it's another internet faker if you ask me.


Edit: Race computer specifications:- 8100 rpm redline (maximum possible!) - That's the "race computer" specs right off Howells website.
85526, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by WIDECLIPSE, May-03-05 04:16 AM
It looks like it ends right at 8200 :shrug
85527, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by baxsom, May-03-05 04:21 AM
that might be when his motor blew
i could hit 400hp if i turned my boost controller all the way to 100%
then i could spend all day picking up the funny looking pieces and trying to figure out which part they used to be

85528, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by whodatt1, May-03-05 04:26 AM
that kid is in his own dream land. I maxed out my 440's at 300hp. come to the SO to see some real 400hp (and above) cars.
85529, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-03-05 04:36 AM
he's making torque like a honda lol
85533, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by Kirby, May-03-05 05:53 AM
You can tell from the mod list he is lieing. There is no 2.4L "stroker" from howell and they also do not make forged cranks, the only guy's who did were VT, and at that they were only 2.2L. The only way he has a 2.4L is if he did the swap... and he did not. Liar from the start IMO...
Plus half the stuff on this list is wrong, if you had the afx you would know it does not go to 9000... And since when were there NCAA standings for cars? What are driveshaft shop "500hp" axles. BUILT LEVEL TEN TRANNY (AN AUTOMATIC PUTTING OUT 400HP BULLSHIT)And to top it all off a centerforce dual friction holding 500HP HAHAHAHAHA...lol
I think this guy is a well studied internet fake...
# 3 Mitsbubishi in the NCCA national Title standings - 2004

Engine:

2.0 liter stroked to 2.4 liter(Howell Automotive shortblock replacement)
AFX Race Computer(9000 rpm rev limiter)
Forged Crankshaft
Eagle Rods
JE Pistons
Total Seal Piston Rings
Crane Cams Turbo/Nitrous Grind
Crane Valve Springs
Fidanza Cam Gears
Ferrea 1MM Oversized Valves
Built Tranmission(Level 10 Transmissions)
Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch
Driveshaft Shop 500hp Axles
Hahn Racecraft Turbo Kit(Stage 2)
16G Turbo Housing 20G Compressor Wheel
Front Mount Intercooler
Accel 440CC Injectors
Venom Fuel Rail
Nitrous Express N-ter cooler kit
Turbo Xs Blowoff Valve
Ported and Polished Head and Intake Manifold(ported)
Split Second Voltage Clamp
Apexi N-1 Exhaust
Weapon-R Catch Can
OBX Radiator Hoses
MSD DIS Ignition System
Hayame Radiator Cap
Hayame Radiator Brackets
Injen Fuse Box Cover
Accel Spark Plug Wires
ZEX Spark Plugs
Billet Fuel Pressure Regulator
Walbro 255 LPH Fuel Pump(in tank)
Accel Inline Fuel Pump
Powder Coated Intercooler Piping
Optima Yellow Top Battery
Mobile Spec Battery Termimals
85535, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by EvMan2345, May-03-05 06:09 AM
I'm pretty sure i saw that car at HIN atlantic city. I stuck around there to see if the owner would come by but in the min or 2 i waited he didnt come by so i moved on...

Evan B
97 GS- FOR SALE
90 GSX-sold
Stamford CT
EvMan2345@aol.com
85536, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by Kirby, May-03-05 06:56 AM
Ok I'm stupid self :owned it does not say ncaa it says ncca, but he is still a liar...
85537, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-03-05 07:00 AM
Originally posted by Kirby
You can tell from the mod list he is lieing. There is no 2.4L "stroker" from howell and they also do not make forged cranks, the only guy's who did were VT, and at that they were only 2.2L. The only way he has a 2.4L is if he did the swap... and he did not. Liar from the start IMO... Plus half the stuff on this list is wrong, if you had the afx you would know it does not go to 9000... And since when were there NCAA standings for cars? What are driveshaft shop "500hp" axles. BUILT LEVEL TEN TRANNY (AN AUTOMATIC PUTTING OUT 400HP BULLSHIT)And to top it all off a centerforce dual friction holding 500HP HAHAHAHAHA...lol I think this guy is a well studied internet fake... # 3 Mitsbubishi in the NCCA national Title standings - 2004 Engine: 2.0 liter stroked to 2.4 liter(Howell Automotive shortblock replacement) AFX Race Computer(9000 rpm rev limiter) Forged Crankshaft Eagle Rods JE Pistons Total Seal Piston Rings Crane Cams Turbo/Nitrous Grind Crane Valve Springs Fidanza Cam Gears Ferrea 1MM Oversized Valves Built Tranmission(Level 10 Transmissions) Centerforce Dual Friction Clutch Driveshaft Shop 500hp Axles Hahn Racecraft Turbo Kit(Stage 2) 16G Turbo Housing 20G Compressor Wheel Front Mount Intercooler Accel 440CC Injectors Venom Fuel Rail Nitrous Express N-ter cooler kit Turbo Xs Blowoff Valve Ported and Polished Head and Intake Manifold(ported) Split Second Voltage Clamp Apexi N-1 Exhaust Weapon-R Catch Can OBX Radiator Hoses MSD DIS Ignition System Hayame Radiator Cap Hayame Radiator Brackets Injen Fuse Box Cover Accel Spark Plug Wires ZEX Spark Plugs Billet Fuel Pressure Regulator Walbro 255 LPH Fuel Pump(in tank) Accel Inline Fuel Pump Powder Coated Intercooler Piping Optima Yellow Top Battery Mobile Spec Battery Termimals


they make forged crankshafts. look at the last line on the howell 2.2L stroker kit. "Forged Stroker Crankshaft". all the other non stroker engine kits come with the forged crankshaft as an option for a pretty penny more
85542, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-03-05 08:07 AM
www.driveshaftshop.com has axles that they level by the amount of hp they can hold, and i think i remember seeing 500hp axles on there when i was looking around. but yea he's still full of crap
85545, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by Kirby, May-03-05 08:24 AM
You're right they did put HP levels on them, back when I was looking they had only the stages. Also howell did not offer a forged crank when i bought my 2.2L. This must have been a responce to the VT guy's offering a forged crank. I guess next someone is going to tell me level 10 makes manual tranny parts too...
85546, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by GSGoinFast, May-03-05 09:31 AM
Originally posted by KirbyI guess next someone is going to tell me level 10 makes manual tranny parts too...


uhhh well actually... :P
85548, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-03-05 01:20 PM
You guys should look at his comments on cardomain...lol

SO he is regular over here, yet he has never posted or defended himself...I guess we are a bunch of haters and his magic dyno slip appeared out of magic fairy dust land...
85551, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-03-05 02:50 PM
yea you'd think that he'd at least try to stand up for his car, it's sad when people just compulsivly lie for no reason
85553, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by DJ420a, May-03-05 03:02 PM
I posted a new message. Lets see how long it stays there, lol. Im not trying to drive the guy nuts, I just want him to come to grips with reality, lol.
85554, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-03-05 03:05 PM
hahahahahaha he removed the dyno slip "due to haters" hahahaha

though he did add something in his mod's list

Future Upgrades
Hahn Portfuel System(just got)
New T70 Garrett Turbo(just got)
Vemon Intake Manifold(here)
Tubular Turbo Manifold(here)
720cc Injectors(here)
Haltech Standalone(here)
Carbon Fiber Dash and Interior Pieces(blue or silver carbon)
Fiberglassed Speaker Enclousure
Fiberglassed Door Panels
Fal Slimline Fans
Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator
Nitrous Express Direct Port Setup

that could be interesting, 720cc injectors plus 440cc injectors = 1160cc's, thats a lotta fuel
85555, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-03-05 04:04 PM
Originally posted by BlackMagic
hahahahahaha he removed the dyno slip "due to haters" hahahaha though he did add something in his mod's list Future Upgrades Hahn Portfuel System(just got) New T70 Garrett Turbo(just got) Vemon Intake Manifold(here) Tubular Turbo Manifold(here) 720cc Injectors(here) Haltech Standalone(here) Carbon Fiber Dash and Interior Pieces(blue or silver carbon) Fiberglassed Speaker Enclousure Fiberglassed Door Panels Fal Slimline Fans Fluidyne Aluminum Radiator Nitrous Express Direct Port Setup that could be interesting, 720cc injectors plus 440cc injectors = 1160cc's, thats a lotta fuel



What a retard... Why on earth does he think that he can use the porkfooler with the Haltech...

Originally posted by DJ420a
I posted a new message. Lets see how long it stays there, lol. Im not trying to drive the guy nuts, I just want him to come to grips with reality, lol.


DJ- I copied them before they get erased (he erased his shit talk about coming over to Hanover to show you whats up!!! lol)

originalredhat 5/1/05, 6:31 ampost a dyno slip dude, you may have the first eclipse with a hahn kit that broke 400 horses.

wreclipse 5/2/05, 7:54 pmThe slip has been posted for you

dj420a 5/3/05, 2:30 pmMan, lol, you gotta see this http://forums.2gnt.com/dcboard.php?az=show_topic

wreclipse 5/3/05, 3:53 pmI that's all the proof you need haters.I'm on 2gnt all the time.Crack on the car all you want but the numbers don't lie

silverbullet20g 5/3/05, 4:12 pmYeah right 400whp...I can draw lines too with paint. Nice torque numbers, you should raise it up next time so it looks real. What shop was the dyno from? There is no way that your fuel system will handle that...

wreclipse 5/3/05, 4:24 pmIt's ok.the car just recieved some new goodies some the new numbers with be posted in the next couple of weeks.

blackmagic95 5/3/05, 5:49 pmif ur on 2gnt then why aren't you defending yourself on this post that basically says you're full of crap, come check it out if you want to prove everyone wrong

dj420a 5/3/05, 6:01 pmActually, I'll tell you what. Let me know the next time your in Hanover or just cruisn around. I'll meet up with you and I will show you your not pushin 400. Is the car paid for? Lets make this interesting. Unless of course its a trailer queen. Im mean cmon, you gotta see whats she's got every now and then. Look man, we're not haten. Its just bugs the piss out of all of us that actually do the wrenching and tuning, trying to squeeze as much hp's as we can outta the 420A, when your sittn in front of a screen saying your puttin out that many horses. Im sorry, but if you did your homework like most of us have, you would know your setup will not handle that much power.


Go 2GNT!!!!!
85556, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by BlackMagic, May-03-05 04:09 PM
Originally posted by SilverBullet20ghe erased his shit talk about coming over to Hanover to show you whats up!!! lol


he better have erased that! gonna try to tell him whats up with some freakin 20 inch chrome wheels that weigh as much as the car
85560, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by DJ420a, May-03-05 04:49 PM
This guy might even be worse, lol. He's got a turbo and a supercharger. http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/495498/2


85561, RE: Turbo'd 420A @ 400hp
Posted by SilverBullet20g, May-03-05 04:56 PM
Originally posted by DJ420a
This guy might even be worse, lol. He's got a turbo and a supercharger. http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/495498/2


Don't mess with him, he is a texas pimp!