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Topic subjectMissing Link
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81204, Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-09-05 07:17 AM
Does anyone run their turbo setup without a Missing Link on their map sensor? Just wandering what happens if you run without it and boost around 7-9 psi.
81206, RE: Missing Link
Posted by grain, Jan-09-05 07:52 AM
i dont use any fcd. but, i am standalone, so it dont matter.

but you do need a fcd on any 96+
81208, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Ark, Jan-09-05 09:28 AM
Originally posted by ericeclipse2
Just wandering what happens if you run without it and boost around 7-9 psi.


Fuel cut, bucking, etc. Just buy one and don't be such a cheap ass.
81209, RE: Missing Link
Posted by turbo8u, Jan-09-05 09:38 AM
Originally posted by Ark
Originally posted by ericeclipse2 Just wandering what happens if you run without it and boost around 7-9 psi.
Fuel cut, bucking, etc. Just buy one and don't be such a cheap ass.


be nice christina

81210, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Ark, Jan-09-05 09:39 AM
Originally posted by turbo8u
be nice christina

:love


Just buy one from here: http://www.group5motorsport.com/main.pl?sid=9637022072&page=pitem&product=SE-ML
81224, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jan-10-05 01:43 AM
my 96 never needed a missing link, ran for 2 years and never had a problem. my 97 threw codes, no busking or fuel cut though. I have a missing link for sale 55.00 shipped brand new in package.

I use a FCD

Terry
96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver

97 Eclipse.........

81226, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-10-05 04:56 AM
With the Missing Link installed do I need a fuel cut defender also?
81227, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jan-10-05 04:58 AM
no an FCD is basically an electronic Missing link, or its commonly called a voltage clamp.

Terry
96 Eagle Talon ESI....Daily driver

97 Eclipse.........

81233, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-10-05 06:47 AM
Cool, thanks. I just ordered a missing link. :thumbsup
81392, RE: Missing Link
Posted by 97whitESi, Jan-13-05 03:57 PM
..... why spend 55 bux on something you have to clean?
zener diode 4.7V. there you go. the inspensive!!11
81393, RE: Missing Link
Posted by siueclipse, Jan-13-05 04:06 PM
I had problems with the missing link. It was causing my car to buck a bit. I would go with the clamp over the ml.

- James
81459, RE: Missing Link
Posted by taloniized, Jan-16-05 08:33 AM
I don't use one, but then again I have a '95.
81505, RE: Missing Link
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, Jan-18-05 05:18 AM
What is the highest boost the missing link is good for?
above 13-14 psi my map sensor gets damaged and needs replacing, even with the missing link...
81517, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Ducking_Fumbass, Jan-18-05 02:37 PM
That sensor is built to withstand 100+ PSI backfires. 13 PSI above ambient shouldn't make a difference to it...

There isn't much of an internal difference between a 1 bar MAP sensor, and a 3 bar MAP sensor...
81623, RE: Missing Link
Posted by CarbonFiberRST, Jan-20-05 07:10 PM
Oh, well the stock sensor worked for over a year at 8psi, i boosted 12-14 for a few weeks and it was fine then too. Then I boosted 18 and after about 3 pulls it wouldn't idle and kept dying. (would run ok while driving and wot). I replaced the map sensor and it ran like normal again... I bought the missing link and after I installed it I boosted 18 again and it fucked up like before. I replaced the map sensor again and it ran fine. I did this one more time and it fucked up and I replaced the map sensor and it ran fine... so now i've kept it at about 12 psi and its not fucking up.
81630, RE: Missing Link
Posted by 97grnRS, Jan-21-05 05:42 AM
so u use the stock Map sensor with 8 psi no prob? cause on my 97 ill be running 8 psi. so if i dont need to waste more money i wont. will it be ok with a stock map usin 8 psi all day? also what if i just put a 4.3V zener diode on the wires like was stated b 4 ? would this help?
81641, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-21-05 11:40 AM
I got my missing link, but the sent the wrong f*ing one. Is there an alternative to having the missing link other than a fuel cut defender? I plan on putting my turbo on this weekend so I need something so it wont cut fuel and go crazy.
81644, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jan-21-05 11:49 AM
I can send you a missing link new in package for 55.00 shipped. will take 2-3 days to ge to you.

Terry
81645, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-21-05 11:54 AM
I bought the missing link from Group 5 Motorsport. I sent them an email telling them to either send me the right one or give me my money back. If they give my money back or tell me to go screw myself, I will be buying from you then.

But is there an alternative to the missing link?
81646, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-21-05 12:02 PM
Would a 4.7 volt zener diode work. Does radioshack sell 4.7v ones? Does anyone know? And do you just solder it in between two wires on the MAP sensor harness wires?
81647, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-21-05 12:05 PM
Originally posted by ericeclipse2
just solder it in between two wires on the MAP sensor harness wires?

I meant to say, inline with one of the wires on the sensor harness.
81648, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jan-21-05 12:10 PM
no it has to go from one of the wires to the other. there is a writeup on the internet about it. that is the same thing as fcd only typical FCD are adjustable so you can taylor it to your car. 4.7v diode is generic...works.

Terry
81649, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-21-05 12:12 PM
Cool, thanks! If I could give you more points I would!
81667, RE: Missing Link
Posted by Star Turbo Talon, Jan-22-05 09:57 AM
you never gave me points what in the world are you talking about? Anyway no big deal points are a big issue to me. If you want to go with a FCD i have a few made but you need a multimeter to set them.

Terry
81669, RE: Missing Link
Posted by ericeclipse2, Jan-22-05 11:10 AM
I guess it didnt go through before or something. But I just now ensured I gave you a point. :thumbsup
How much for a FCD. I read in some posts that both a missing link and a FCD are good to have. Missing link will keep the boost from destroying the MAP sensor.