ok as im sure some of you know from previous posts ive made, i really want to boost my car but i have to keep it as my daily for at least two more years until i graduate from college. i can probably afford it around the summer time so its not something that is going to happen anytime soon. if you were in my situation, honestly, what would you do? im beginning to lean towards boosting but the amount of money it would take to get it done right in my eyes is a lot. it also doesnt help that i have a buddy with a fast gsx that keeps trying to tell me to sell my car for a gsx which wont happen for a few reasons. anyway, i know this is kind of a general question but i want answers from people that know about the topic the most so im posting it in here. mods, you can feel free to move it if you think its necessary. thanks for any advice.

i guess i should mention that if i did decide to go through with it, i wouldnt be going for all out power and low times. i just want my car to be more fun to drive.

not worth it if you still in school and have bills. Just dress it up and call it a day.

What would I do? Knowing what I know now, I'd do it and tune conservatively. HRC stage 2, 6-7PSI, leave it alone. May people have done it before and not had problems.

People read far, far to much into the actions and repercusions of the moderating staff and the "people in the know" here at 2GNT.com - we know what we know and do what we do because we get our rocks off pushing the limits. I've blown both a stock motor and a built motor - if people went off of my experiences, they'd expect to blow built motors too. Never mind the fact i was running nearly 20psi on a t3/t04e on 93 octane pump when i summarily annihilated my built motor due to very specific tuning requirements limited to my own setup and no one else's. Never mind the fact that Jason_ESiT and Corbin (among others) have run bone stock 420A DSMs turbocharged for tens of thousands of miles on end with no internal issues. People don't read the happenings and actions of Joe Average, and Joe Average doesn't post to say, "Hey, my turbo car is still running, and has been, for a year. Just checking in." They wanna see the train wreck. They wanna see me, XtremeRS, Murix, Matt95_tgs, Avenger, Armond, Ner947, and the many others push the limits and fuck things up.

It's very easy to do what you want, follow the instructions, and have it run. It's even easy to do it and have it last a while. It's tough to have it last a long while. The only thing that makes it tough is doing exactly what you need to do - leave it alone.

Originally posted by DarkOne
What would I do? Knowing what I know now, I'd do it and tune conservatively. HRC stage 2, 6-7PSI, leave it alone. May people have done it before and not had problems. People read far, far to much into the actions and repercusions of the moderating staff and the "people in the know" here at 2GNT.com - we know what we know and do what we do because we get our rocks off pushing the limits. I've blown both a stock motor and a built motor - if people went off of my experiences, they'd expect to blow built motors too. Never mind the fact i was running nearly 20psi on a t3/t04e on 93 octane pump when i summarily annihilated my built motor due to very specific tuning requirements limited to my own setup and no one else's. Never mind the fact that Jason_ESiT and Corbin (among others) have run bone stock 420A DSMs turbocharged for tens of thousands of miles on end with no internal issues. People don't read the happenings and actions of Joe Average, and Joe Average doesn't post to say, "Hey, my turbo car is still running, and has been, for a year. Just checking in." They wanna see the train wreck. They wanna see me, XtremeRS, Murix, Matt95_tgs, Avenger, Armond, Ner947, and the many others push the limits and fuck things up. It's very easy to do what you want, follow the instructions, and have it run. It's even easy to do it and have it last a while. It's tough to have it last a long while. The only thing that makes it tough is doing exactly what you need to do - leave it alone.

thats what i was thinking. the only thing is my car has 103.5k miles on it so i dont trust boosting it without a rebuild and thats when single digit boost numbers seem almost pointless. how hard would rebliability be at 12psi?

do a compression test! dont be scared. If you have taken care of the car up to this point it could probly handle a little boost.

Originally posted by injendsm
ok as im sure some of you know from previous posts ive made, i really want to boost my car but i have to keep it as my daily for at least two more years until i graduate from college. i can probably afford it around the summer time so its not something that is going to happen anytime soon. if you were in my situation, honestly, what would you do? im beginning to lean towards boosting but the amount of money it would take to get it done right in my eyes is a lot. it also doesnt help that i have a buddy with a fast gsx that keeps trying to tell me to sell my car for a gsx which wont happen for a few reasons. anyway, i know this is kind of a general question but i want answers from people that know about the topic the most so im posting it in here. mods, you can feel free to move it if you think its necessary. thanks for any advice.

I had this same question...kinda...so i had everyone post info about there boosting...hope this helps


"1. John’s RS-T – Daily, 6 PSI – Track, 9 PSI- 1 year strong, and still going!

2. Kurt's GS-T - Stock Engine, 8 PSI, 1 Year (Replaced with built motor, nothing wrong with block (210 psi across all cylinders), just wanted more boost) - Built Engine, 10 PSI, 5 months (waiting for weather to get better and turn up the boost)

3. Justin RST- 6 months(12,000 miles) of abuse at 8psi, many spikes to 10-11psi...93 octane, stock injectors, base FMU, Motor still in great shape!

4. Extremes’ RS-T – 9 psi daily, for a while and motor was ok. Ran 11 psi then cracked a ring land

5. Jsupetran’s RS-T- 5 psi daily, nothing more – after many 350 mile trips from school to home, still going strong!

6. Lee's RS-T: 19 or 10 psi daily. Depending on what level I set the two stage boost controller to. Built motor with Wiseco pistons

7. Dark Reality RS-T - Star Stage 2: Daily 8psi-10psi, no problems till upgraded to 36lb injectors and 12,000mi of boosting, then cracked piston. forced rebuild-12 psi daily- till 50lb injector upgrade-18-20psi daily. no problems yet. currently fuel system change in progress

8. Thom’s RST Star Stage II-little over a year at 7 pounds, just turned it up to 8.5 =) 5,000 miles over due for a timing belt change and no runs at the track

9. . Mark's RS-T – Seldom Driven (been down for a long time for a new head gasket, unrelated to turbo), 7 to 8 PSI (regulated by an Apex'i AVC-R), street only, 7 months, 2000 miles moremoremore

10. RyaN95i4 -
Pump gas: 1.5 yrs at 8-10psi then 6months at 12psi (daily)
Pump gas + xylene: 15psi (intermittenly throughout the first 2 years, also saw rare spikes to 18-20psi)
--Car was daily driven, and ALWAYS driven hard -- have yet to meet anyone who drove their car as hard as often as I do. During this time, motor had never been opened. Fuel setup: 30lb injectors, SFMU, walbro. s16g w/ FMIC.--

--Eventually cracked a ringland after 2 years of abuse (and 3/4 cylinders still had perfect compression). Piston failure was due to fatigue, not detonation.--
--Now, car runs 18psi daily: built motor + 8inj setup.--

11. Corsagsbo RS-T - 12-14psi on stock bottom end. HRC stage 2, 30lb inj. 20,000 miles of abuse, compression was still good but could have gone at any time..
next was, JE 8.8:1/Crower rod combo.. I put roughly 12,000 miles of HARD miles then developed blow-by.
now, in the middle of a custom CP 2.2l set-up

12. Matt 95tgs’s GS-T – 7 psi for a year, Stock bottom end, No problems. 13 psi for two weeks straight, then cracked 3 ring lands, but still car still ran.
--Now forged internals, 17 psi daily, 24 PSI at the track!!!!Running for 1 ½ years now, and still going strong!

13. Robotechsm RS-T - 5 psi, stock bottom end, still going!

14. Phrenzy’s RS-T – 8 psi , stock bottom end, still strong!

15. Actingrezy – 10 psi for a year and a half, 11-12 at the track…Cracked a ringland in December… best time to date 14.1 @ 101mph 2.4 60' on 18's 11psi

16. Jason ESi-T- Ran 5-8 psi for 3 years or so, 37k miles. NO problems ever really with the engine. Ended with 175 across. I wanted more so, I rebuilt (JE/Crower). Run 12-17 psi daily. Up to 20 psi when necessary. Spared nothing when it came to fuel throughout. 8 injectors (235's/440's) back when I had stock internals. Always ran pump gas.

17. Gilbert's GS-T: - Stock Engine, 6-7PSI, 6 months (engine still reads 210-215 compression all across)

18. RS-T ran 8-10psi for 6 months, had problems with leaks and spool up time. I have alot of blowby now so I just purchased a howell rebuild kit(sold first one) again and am rebuilding this month. Plan to run 15psi with super 16g, 30lbs injectors, sfmu, walbro in-tank fuel pump, greddy fmic, and accell in-line fuel pump.
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Originally posted by DarkOne
What would I do? Knowing what I know now, I'd do it and tune conservatively. HRC stage 2, 6-7PSI, leave it alone. May people have done it before and not had problems. People read far, far to much into the actions and repercusions of the moderating staff and the "people in the know" here at 2GNT.com - we know what we know and do what we do because we get our rocks off pushing the limits. I've blown both a stock motor and a built motor - if people went off of my experiences, they'd expect to blow built motors too. Never mind the fact i was running nearly 20psi on a t3/t04e on 93 octane pump when i summarily annihilated my built motor due to very specific tuning requirements limited to my own setup and no one else's. Never mind the fact that Jason_ESiT and Corbin (among others) have run bone stock 420A DSMs turbocharged for tens of thousands of miles on end with no internal issues. People don't read the happenings and actions of Joe Average, and Joe Average doesn't post to say, "Hey, my turbo car is still running, and has been, for a year. Just checking in." They wanna see the train wreck. They wanna see me, XtremeRS, Murix, Matt95_tgs, Avenger, Armond, Ner947, and the many others push the limits and fuck things up. It's very easy to do what you want, follow the instructions, and have it run. It's even easy to do it and have it last a while. It's tough to have it last a long while. The only thing that makes it tough is doing exactly what you need to do - leave it alone.

Yup. I am Joe average here :) . Most of the memorable post for me is when someone blows there motor... They are the ones we most remember, but the ones who stay conservatively are usually just in the back ground. I am actually quite interested in how long this stock motor will last, given that I am buying larger injectors, a boost controller, and a wideband sensor soon. :)

im gonna bitch slap you with my nuts if you go with a 4g63.

the end

Originally posted by grain
im gonna bitch slap you with my nuts if you go with a 4g63. the end

lol wanna help me do a compression test?

Hey dude, umm if you wanna turbo your car, a useful gauge to have is the wideband... And since there is the GB for the zeitronix kit, you can add egt, and boost in one small package for 600 total. With that you safe. So goin our GB :) Pm if your interested PLEASE.

Originally posted by jsupetran
Hey dude, umm if you wanna turbo your car, a useful gauge to have is the wideband... And since there is the GB for the zeitronix kit, you can add egt, and boost in one small package for 600 total. With that you safe. So goin our GB :) Pm if your interested PLEASE.

i would but i dont plan to start putting the boost setup until summer time. ive got other things i need to get out of the way first.

yeah, i can do that. but your drving your ass up here. im free during the days. gimme a call 941-815-2878 or if you have a nextel handy dc:159*224176*18

Originally posted by grain
yeah, i can do that. but your drving your ass up here. im free during the days. gimme a call 941-815-2878 or if you have a nextel handy dc:159*224176*18

well i figured i would drive up there. i have this friday off from work and class so as soon as i recover from getting drunk the night before, i can probably make a drive up there.