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Topic subjectBlue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
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7718, Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by speedracer21, Jul-22-01 07:40 AM
Well I've had my turbo for about a month now. And I just noticed yesterday that after a few min. at idle I start seeing light blue, almost white smoke start to come out of my exhaust.
At first I thought it might be the valves, but a local shop told it might be unburnt fuel, due to the up graded fuel system, and stock ignition. So I was going to get an msd or some type of ignition box to get more spark. Has anyone else had this problem??? Need help asap!
thank

Star Stage II (BB)
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Turbo XS MBC
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7719, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by RoboTechDSM, Jul-22-01 08:00 AM
Blue smoke usually indicates that you have a coolant leak somewhere. Maybe coolant is leaking through your combustion chambers or something. Again, i'm no mechanic but I've read a lotta maintanance shit and usually this is a sign of this type of leak
7720, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by 97xtc, Jul-22-01 08:24 AM
blue smoke= running rich, if it were coolant you would smell it and it would be steam not smoke
7721, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by speedracer21, Jul-22-01 08:36 AM
Yea its running rich. At WOT the a/f reads full rich. So thats why I think its not burrning all the fuel.

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HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
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7722, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by speedracer21, Jul-22-01 11:03 AM
Would a msd or another ignition system fix this??

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza stlye lights

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7723, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by guest, Jul-22-01 11:34 AM
When you run rich you get black smoke not blue. I hate to say this but blue smoke usually means oil is being burnt. I had a 1g with 160,000 miles on it and it burned some blue smoke and it would eat oil like crazy. Definetly have that checked out.

DAVE_FL
97 T-GS
HRC stage 2 (still waiting on parts from RRE)
Orlando DSM www.orl.dsm.org

7724, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by Irfan, Jul-22-01 01:54 PM
i always thought blue was oil
7725, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by eclipsekaiser, Jul-22-01 03:14 PM
I bet my left nut that you might need a ring replacement... :P
7726, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by speedracer21, Jul-23-01 03:32 AM
Well so far this is all i found on it. So now I know it's oil.
http://members.home.com/costall/1000Q/answers-problems.htm#bluesmoke
I was also told that it might just be my valves are dirty and not seating right. So I'm running fuel system cleaner thru my baby right now. And I also plan on trying the down hill test (talked about in the vfaq link) Because I haven't found a shop yet that I trust to give me an honest diag. On the plus side it's still under the bumper to bumper warranty :-)

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza stlye lights

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7727, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by dsm1, Jul-23-01 04:22 AM
if i'm not mistaking, once you dropped the hairdyer in your car...the warranty you got is shot out the window.

chris
97 Eclipse Rs-T
STAR stage II(200psi on stock internals)
AIM: blitzdsm1



7728, RE: Blue smoke..HELP!!!!!!
Posted by Jeff_99gs, Jul-23-01 07:13 AM
Black=Fuel
Blue=oil
White=coolant (headgasket)

Juan should post that on the main site :P

As for your car... do a compression test. That will pretty much tell you if your internals are okay. If I saw blue smoke coming out of my exhaust I would be very worried. Do you notice any oil in your engine bay? out the breather...etc? Thats another thing to worry about.

There was a 97 GS-T at the shootout blowing blue smoke everywhere. Even at idle. I asked him if he had it checked out, and he said he blew a ring or two, but wanted to run it at the shootout anyway. (not really smart, but the car still ran).

-Jeff
1999 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS-T'd

http://gs.dsmpower.com


7729, blowby....
Posted by JasonESi_T, Jul-23-01 07:29 AM
It could be blowby oil recircluating through your intercooelr pipes and back through your intake tract and through to your engine and then...voila! burning oil!

Try to get a catch can to keep the oil out of the intake tract, while at the same time using some intake cleaner and spray the hell out of your throttle body.

Jason
98' Eagle Talon ESi-T
Mitsu Super 16g Turbo(HRC)/Custom FMIC


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7730, RE: blowby....
Posted by Stan2gnt, Jul-23-01 08:58 AM
black=rich
blue=oil
white=coolant and/or oil. worn valve guides that allow oil to pass through them will cause huge amount of white smoke on start up or if engine is idles for an extended period.


It can be hard to tell the difference between the 1rst two(unless its at the point of an old hooptie where its obviously oil). Have someone drive behind you and try to analyze it (and smell it too...for fuel or get that old POS fixed smell). I wouldn't worry about either one until it made itself an issue (you'll know trust me. if its blowby from worn rings or valvetrain if will become predictable).


Since I cant use photopoint IMAGINE THIS:
Star turbo with E-trim and HKS BOV
Starion FMIC/2.5" piping
Joe P MBC
Apexi SuperAFC
Ross Pistons/total seal rings
Ported and matched intake manifold
AFX 55mm TB, FMM and UDP
2.5" downpipe back exh/Hayame muffler
Crane wires/Denso Iridium plugs
Centerforce DF clutch
KYB AGX struts/ST springs, UPR FSB, F&R camber kits
17" ADR lightnings/toyo FZ4 215/45/17
97' eclipse front end/projectors
Autometer gauges
Panasonic head unit/ Sony X-over
MB Quarts all around/JL stealth sub
Hifonics/MTX Thunder amps
XX brand alarm/Varad hyper green led

Stan2gnt
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95 Talon 420A-Turbo
Former and future nitrous user



7731, RE: blowby....
Posted by XT_DSM, Jul-23-01 09:45 AM
http://members.home.net/xtatdsm



you can also be burning oil throw your turbo (bad turbo seals that leak oil into the
intake housing of your turbo.

I am pretty sure that's not the case tho, since you have a new turbo (well at least it's not older than 3 years)

a compression test will tell you everything you need to know (low compression will be caused by bad oil rings, or bad valve seals)good compression tells you that you might just have a bad turbo or simply a oil blow by from your valve cover to your intake manifold.

good luck

Adel

7732, RE: blowby....
Posted by speedracer21, Jul-23-01 10:09 AM
Yea so far it's only happened twice and I've tried to recerate the conditions to see if it will blow smoke again but it dose'nt. And my engine bay is oil free, even my breather on the manifold is still clean. I think my car is just having hiccups from hitting 120mph friday night at the races :-)
I'll let ya know how it holds up

Star Stage II (BB)
HKS Type-1 BOV
HKS T-Timer
Turbo XS MBC
Apexi-N1 Catback
Test pipe
Autometer Boost Gauge
Autometer A/F Gauge
Autometer Monster tack
Altezza stlye lights

Comming Soon...
CFDF Clutch
Full body graphics


"Thats not an FMIC, it's um... my alum radiator"



7733, RE: blowby....
Posted by 99GSBBTurbo, Jul-26-01 02:38 PM
I hope everything is ok...could be just hicups:P Good Luck!!!



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