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Topic subjectJust got back from DYNO!
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73140, Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-25-04 03:52 PM
well im dissappointed but happy because the numbers are there.ill be back on the dyno monday to get my 300+ at 15 plus psi
10 psi = 220 whp 210 torque
13 psi = 241 whp 230 torque
i did 4 pulls and was lean at 13psi. i have a 4:1 ration disk in my fmu and my afc is +50 from 5000rpms on. I am installing my S-fmu tomorrow and going back. i have the chart in my email but i must d/l a program to run it. once i do that i will post the charts.
73151, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by injendsm, Jun-26-04 04:46 AM
pretty good numbers imo.
73167, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by 420AYE, Jun-26-04 03:24 PM
tune tune tune! 300 should be atainable.
73170, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by DarKReaLity, Jun-26-04 04:10 PM
yeah post your A/F graphs to see if you were running too rich throughout the powerband...i think you should be making a little more power at 13psi. i'm guessing that you were too rich.
73201, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-27-04 11:59 PM
Originally posted by DarKReaLity
yeah post your A/F graphs to see if you were running too rich throughout the powerband...i think you should be making a little more power at 13psi. i'm guessing that you were too rich.



nah dude i said i was lean at 13psi. i need to install my sfmu thats just sittingin my room. although i did change the disk in my fmu from 4:1 to 8:1 to be able tp get about 14 psi out of it. im going back to the dyno tonight. maybe i might even take the time after work to install the sfmu. the car is running so great i really didnt want to mess with it. I downloaded runviwer from www.dynojet.com but i have to print up the dyno charts and scan them then post it because i cant copy it or anything. i would really like to post the charts. Also i am very pleassed with the numbers even if they should be a little higher. a buddy of mine with a 1st gen awd talon has a big 16g mild port and polish, 550s, afc, ported 02 housing full 3 inch turbo backand a couple other mcs things and put down 227whp at 15psi on the same dyno. he ran a 13.1 but i forget at what mph. ill post more results tonight
73204, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by TapRooT, Jun-28-04 06:25 AM
It wasnt an AWD dyno though was it? Thats why he only put down 227. He should be at prolly high 200's to low 300's in that awd.


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73207, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-28-04 07:05 AM
Originally posted by TapRooT
It wasnt an AWD dyno though was it? Thats why he only put down 227. He should be at prolly high 200's to low 300's in that awd. 1998 Eclipse RS-T Aim= masterkoronor Email krwadd02@louisville.edu


sorry i meant dynojet and also the same place. yes hit was on and awd dyno. he wasnt tunning though he just made little adjustments and did 3 pulls. it was at like a speacial dyno day. im sure once hes properly tuned he will def. be putting more down.
73215, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by Hello_PC, Jun-28-04 09:15 AM
That is a nice number, BTW in what RPM you got a Full boost?
and are you use a BB T3/T4 Turbo or not?

I can't wait to se your Dyno Chart.

Cheers,

73216, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by Blizare, Jun-28-04 09:34 AM
stock internals? 14psi?
73217, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by etx, Jun-28-04 09:41 AM
Originally posted by Blizare
stock internals? 14psi?


His sig says built block. n00b :P


Yeah, your about on par with the power. The next step is bigger turbo / standalone / headwork.
73253, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by 420AYE, Jun-28-04 07:58 PM
Originally posted by etx
Originally posted by Blizare stock internals? 14psi?
His sig says built block. n00b :P Yeah, your about on par with the power. The next step is bigger turbo / standalone / headwork.


QUIT BEING AN ASSHOLE!

just kidding. :thumbsup

isn't it 10-12 hp per pound?
73228, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by DarKReaLity, Jun-28-04 10:28 AM
Originally posted by actingrezy
Originally posted by DarKReaLity yeah post your A/F graphs to see if you were running too rich throughout the powerband...i think you should be making a little more power at 13psi. i'm guessing that you were too rich.
nah dude i said i was lean at 13psi. i need to install my sfmu thats just sittingin my room. although i did change the disk in my fmu from 4:1 to 8:1 to be able tp get about 14 psi out of it. im going back to the dyno tonight. maybe i might even take the time after work to install the sfmu. the car is running so great i really didnt want to mess with it. I downloaded runviwer from www.dynojet.com but i have to print up the dyno charts and scan them then post it because i cant copy it or anything. i would really like to post the charts. Also i am very pleassed with the numbers even if they should be a little higher. a buddy of mine with a 1st gen awd talon has a big 16g mild port and polish, 550s, afc, ported 02 housing full 3 inch turbo backand a couple other mcs things and put down 227whp at 15psi on the same dyno. he ran a 13.1 but i forget at what mph. ill post more results tonight

yea sorry i didn't notice you said that you were lean. well really the biggest thing now is your IC. when i was boosting with the STAR IC, it's not that efficient. if you notice, you're gonna feel a lot of hot air coming from the outlet after a high boosted run. i noticed a big difference when i changed IC's. i boosted to 21psi once, and never again did i attempt it again...my EGT's were way up there and i burned the hell out of my hand on the outlet. i have a temp laser pointer, and the temps were like 170deg! way too hot! now with my new IC, it's like inlet 167deg, outlet 100deg at 18psi. big difference. then again i have a big IC.also look into buying a 3" exhaust system...it will also help you with lower EGT's. fueling wise, you're ok for now upto 15psi. i would say the priority is your intake temps.

73230, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by DarkOne, Jun-28-04 10:48 AM
Originally posted by actingrezy
i have a 4:1 ratio disk in my fmu


What injector size?
73267, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-29-04 08:44 AM
Well i have accel 415cc. i had a 4:1 disk in my fmu and went lean at 12-13psi. yesterday i went back to the dyno with an 8:1 disk in there to see if the fuel was bumped up. and it did get more fuel but still nto enough to bump the boost up to the desired 15psi. i was going to put the 12:1 disk in but i wasnt sureif the fuel pressure would be to high with the 12:1 disk in there. Does anybody know if that would make the fuel pressure to high so i can just put that in until i get the sfmu installed. i have the sfmu sitting in my room but the car is running so great im scared to install the sfmu. if anybody lives around delaware md or pa that would be able to help that would be great. All the lines are ran already all i have to do is disable the stock fpr and set the static and idle fuel pressures. does anyoen have an idea why im not getting enough fuel with the fmu and 415s. i also have a walbro 255 just so everyone knows the whole fuel system. the afc settings are at +50 from 5000rpms on. i know i should have had teh sfmu installed for a while but i was just lazy. im really pissed though because im not at the 15psi i should be at.
73272, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by DarkOne, Jun-29-04 09:58 AM
Setting the AFC into the positive is only going to cause fuel cut. Set it to zero.

Post you whole SAFC settings list too, so i can tell you what you're doing wrong.
73274, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by Avenger, Jun-29-04 11:12 AM
415s at a 4:1 rise rate should allow you to get past 15psi easily. Any setting to the AFC that goes into the positives adjusts the MAP sensor voltage greater than 4.8xxxxV (what ever atmosphere is measured at). Have the ECU see greater than 4.8xxxxV will cause it to fuel cut.
73277, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-29-04 11:26 AM
ok he it goes. Safc settings hi throttle.
1000 = -45
2000 = - 25
3000 = - 15
4000 = - 5
4500 = +35
5000 = +50
6000 = +50
&000 = +50
i had the setting round 0 to + 10 from 5000 to 7000 before i went to the dyno but he told me add as much fuel as i can from 5000 +.
I also have the 8:1 disk in there no but as soon as i gohome i will change it back to 4:1. my a/f with the 4:1 disk in there when the setting were at 0 to +10 he said i was veryy lean high 13's in the a/f. I bumped up the fuel and it brought me to about 12.1 then i put the 8:1 disk in there and it brouh me a bit richer but not much. thanks for everyones help. i got so much damn money wraped up in this turd. if anyone wants to check out pics of my car and what not check out my website. also ive been a memeber here for quite a while i made a few posts but without reading all the forums and general page i just wanted to say i would have never gotten where i am if it wasnt for this site and the knowledge most of you have. thanks again
73278, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by DarkOne, Jun-29-04 11:31 AM
Originally posted by actingrezy
Safc settings hi throttle.
1000 = -45 2000 = - 25 3000 = - 15 4000 = - 5 4500 = +35 5000 = +50 6000 = +50 7000 = +50


Set all the positives to zero. As explained above, setting the correction values over zero will just make you fuel cut. Otherwise, you're not terribly far off rom where i was with 440's and a 3:1 disk - and i had plenty of fuel for 15PSI.

For what its worth, the Walbro is not a good high pressure pump. I augmented mine from the get-go with a big, beefy Airtex inline. That may very well be part of your problem.
73279, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-29-04 11:54 AM
great man. im going to go home from work and change the disk back to 4:1 and set my afc settings to 0 but im scared i will be lean again. i guess ill just watch my egts. thanks great info
73284, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jun-29-04 01:23 PM
ok heres the deal. i re installed the 4:1 disk set all the psoitives to 0 and egst still climb real high . a/f gauage says rich but you know ho wthat is. egst don go past 1600 when settings are +50 or 0. almost there thouh maybe 1550. should i reset my ecu? im not sure what the deal is.
73337, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by brynden29, Jul-01-04 03:42 AM
I had the same problem man. EGT's were out of control. My fix was to install the SFMU. I have the largest disk, and the dark grey spring in it. Do you have a fuel pressure guage? That would be nice to know. I didn't read what size injectors you are running, I assume they are not stockers.

I agree with Dino, you might want to upgrade that fuel pump, it might not be able to get the job done.
73480, RE: Just got back from DYNO!
Posted by actingrezy, Jul-04-04 02:53 PM
i bought a feul pressure gauge todays and the fitting to install the sfmu i gues i have to do what i have to do. thansk by the way i have accell 415s